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Thursday, June 02, 2005


Laura thanks so much for finally coming around and setting up some parameters for your blog. Maybe you should have thought of that in the beginning and we would have all been clear of the game you wished to play. Here is another thought, if you are going to limit who may post or not post because of your personal clash and difference of opinions, then maybe you should delete this blog page all together. My little test of the Nation article that I posted has played out just how I thought it would. You have no organization to what you wish here on this blog and it has developed towards a pissing match with you and anyone you wish not to agree with. Being able to voice ones opinion IS the nice thing about web logs in general. Maybe you would like it better if you just allowed any and everyone to post without a face and not get the true meaning of how people, real people feel about things that transpire in this community.


  • Edward,

    Do you think that Laura is editing posts based on the opinion expressed, or the manner of expression? I have not gone through each of the posts, but I thought she was just deleting the ones that are mean-spirited or that attack someone personally. I think that as long as the discussion is civil and to the point, she won't edit comments out because they differ from her opinion.

    I know you're an experienced blogger, so you know that the owner of the blog can establish the guidelines for posting. On Roger's blog, one guideline he has is that you can pretty much post anything, but he wants you to let him know who you are first. He doesn't ask you to make your identity public, but his rule is simply to let him know who you are privately--or he may, at his discretion, delete the posting.

    Laura's rule is basically the opposite. She allows anonymous posts, but she won't allow opinions about anybody's personal life, job, or actions unrelated to City business, or any personal attacks on posters.

    Yes, there will be some people who will post opinions or beliefs that they can't--or won't--substantiate with fact if asked for documentation. That's human nature. But let's show each other some respect--we can all benefit from that.

    By Blogger New Alb Annie, at 9:09 AM, June 02, 2005  

  • Annie, it may come as a surprise, but in essence, I can go along with Laura's rules on this matter so long as there's no double standard.

    However, so far, there has been a palpable double standard, in that she's been far faster to leap to the defense of "defamed" anonymous posters than she has to delete attacks made by anonymous posters against those of us who are known.

    I use the word Luddite, and I'm placed on probation. An anonymous poster compares me to a girl with dirty knickers, and it stays.

    Don't you think this both inconsistent?

    Make no mistake: I can take it, and don't particularly care what anonymous people say about me. However, if Laura wants to make this an issue of fairness, then it has to be fair both ways.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 9:18 AM, June 02, 2005  

  • New Albanian,

    Had to laugh over the "dirty knickers"--and yes, I agree that I can't see how dirty knickers worked their way into a blog on New Albany issues.

    I'm going to keep my comments professional, and bite my tongue (or fingers, as it were) if I'm tempted to respond to a post in a way that could be perceived as an attack or insult.

    I hope that the other contributors will do the same, because for the most part, I don't want to see people kicked out. The majority of them seem to be here to improve the condition and operations of our city and exchange ideas and information on how to achieve this.

    By Blogger New Alb Annie, at 9:41 AM, June 02, 2005  

  • Fair enough.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 9:57 AM, June 02, 2005  

  • hI lAURA
    my granddaugher just showed me how to do this. I think you are sweet. Pink is prettier than the other blogs.

    You should only let nice people write things here. And it is good that people don't have to use their names. My neighbors have a dog, you probably know who i am talking about, and I am afraid of it. They read this.

    i have tried to read this but it is confusing.

    Who is the foreign lady everybody is takling about.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:07 PM, June 02, 2005  

  • new alb annie, I have been reading this web log since day one and I have not seen any evidence of "mean-spirited or that attack someone personally". If people have that thin of skin, stay off the web. Now if someone would have used profanity or suggested that evil doers were at work here, then yes you would have a valid point, but those kinds of things are not transpiring on this blog.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:09 PM, June 02, 2005  

  • anonymous,

    An example of a personal attack would be like the one New Albanian mentioned. The state of his knickers, clean, dirty or otherwise, doesn't belong here. Laura has asked us to avoid that type of comment.

    By Blogger New Alb Annie, at 2:12 PM, June 02, 2005  

  • New Alb Annie you seem more offended by the filthy unmentionable undergarments statement directed towards Mr. Baylor than he was.

    By Blogger parish, at 2:31 PM, June 02, 2005  

  • uh...Mr. Baylor made that statement towards himself.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 5:53 PM, June 02, 2005  

  • The anonymous "hometown girl" made the dirty knickers remark to me, violating one of the rules, and also said she was laughing ... which violates another. You may have axed it, but I'm not sure.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 5:57 PM, June 02, 2005  

  • New Albanian, this is all your fault, for telling me about those dirty knickers in the first place ; )

    I just noticed when previewing this post that the posting time is off--showing 3:50 am rather than the 6:55 am that it really is. Laura, is that a blog setting that needs to be changed?

    By Blogger New Alb Annie, at 6:53 AM, June 03, 2005  

  • OK, never mind that last part of the above message. The preview said 3:50 but the published post has the correct time.

    By Blogger New Alb Annie, at 6:55 AM, June 03, 2005  

  • Despite Mr. Parish's suggestion that I should delete this blog all together, I believe I will maintain it's existance.
    The majority of feedback has been positive and the participantion level has been encouraging. People wanted a way to speak out without jeopardizing themselves, or their families.
    I stand by my rules for etiquette (be nice or be gone)and, although you might not like it, or always agree with it, you're just going to have to live with my editorial privileges that come along with running one of these.
    I hope you continue to contribute thoughtful insights into the problems that face New Albany.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 4:20 AM, June 08, 2005  

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