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Monday, July 11, 2005

Where Do We Stand Now?

Now that the Council has passed the Scribner Place plans, we can only sit back and wait to see what the outcome will be. The clause that requires the county to make a contribution to the costs is questionable. Will the project be abandoned if the county doesn’t come through with the proposed share of dollars? I doubt it. I think the commitment to see the project through has been made.
I am still hopeful that the YMCA & the City administration will hold public meetings on the costs of memberships and usage of all the facilities made available to anyone who wishes to partake in the physical recreational programs the project has to offer.
Until the facility is completed, we will only be able to watch as millions of dollars are poured into the construction of what is supposed to save our downtown business district. I would still like to see a statement from just one business that would say they are coming to downtown New Albany because of the YMCA -Scribner Place project.
If they are so convinced that this will spawn significant economic development, why don’t they already have even one business signed on as ready to operate in downtown New Albany? I’ll ask again, where is our Economic Development Director, and what has he been doing? This project has been on the table since 2002, that’s 3 years of planning that has not resulted in even one commitment.
Still, it is time to move on, and we can only hope that additional business investments will come to fruition.
Meanwhile, the Clean Up New Albany campaign should be taking center stage as the most pressing order of business facing our community if we are to realize a revitalization of the inner city and downtown.
There are too many homes in disrepair, there is too much trash in the alleys and in yards, and there are too many “low-income neighborhoods” that are less than desirable places to live.
If we are truly hopeful of attracting new businesses, we must convince them that there is a viable marketplace here with households that have expendable income to support such investments.
We must take proactive measures to stop the out-migration of families and individuals that creates more and more rentals, which attracts a transient population. A transient population will not take pride in the appearance of their living space, because they won’t be there long.
Now, I’m not saying this is true of all renters. Some renters have very nice homes, and invest in making their environment attractive. Seniors, young families, and singles all make rentals a necessary portion of housing in any city. But, when a portion of these renters are ready to become home owners, are they purchasing homes here in the inner-city? Or are they moving to the outlying fringe areas where new home developments are attracting buyers?
Look what is happening to the once beautiful older homes. They are becoming multi-unit apartment houses and we have nothing in terms of enforcing standards of upkeep and safety for all these rentals.
There is no reason we should still be without a Code Enforcement officer. Once the codes are enforced, a huge job for a brave soul, the fines collected will almost certainly fund the position. What do we have to do to get the ball rolling on this issue?

36 Comments:

  • Once the YMCA is up and functional, it will ensure a presence of people downtown on a daily basis, which in turn will result in the businesses (the marketplace) you seek.

    Once those businesses are established, and in concert with the other efforts you mention, like Clean Up and ordinance enforcement, the quality of life will encourage living near downtown, which in turn will provide an expanded marketplace for the businesses.

    Everything is connected. Entrepreneurs are watching this whole process, and will come to do business once the conditions are favorable. Making those conditions favorable is one of several reasons for Scribner Place.

    It also will be assisted by cleaning up and ordinance enforcement.

    It's not magic, and of course it isn't guaranteed --NOTHING in life is guaranteed, and fearing the lightning is nor way to live. But it is using government properly to establish conditions for a free market to flourish.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:38 PM, July 11, 2005  

  • I agree with your comments for the most part. I'm still not sold on the idea that people using the Y facility will automatically result in new businesses.
    I do agree,however, that everything is connected. A major clean-up effort and code enforcement is a MUST if we are going to see a revitalized downtown, and revitalized neighborhoods for that matter.
    What type of businesses do you anticipate coming to town?

    By Blogger East Ender, at 1:59 AM, July 12, 2005  

  • Now let's see how fast they choose a Code Enforcement Officer. Were do you get the clean up New Albany signs? I am curious to see what The County Council will do dollar wise. With all the money needed for 3 Trials. And other cases bending Investigation. And the new Building on Grantline road. And funds to pay for new mapping of the county etc. New software and other needs of County Offices. Plus the possible enlargement of the County Jail. I think it will be hard for the County to commit to the $200,000.00 needed. We will see today. Doesn't anyone wonder why they did not move into leaseing space at Scribner Place?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:43 AM, July 12, 2005  

  • First I think you'll see some food and drink businesses -- coffee shop, pub or something like that, which could survive on the increased Y traffic..

    Extended retail probably would be of the "destination" type - unique, niche, doing something well, and attracting people beyond the Y's crowd.

    These would be sustainable. Bigger ones - perhaps offices and the like, might be expected to follow.

    It won't be automatic - you're right. There'll have to be hard working entrepreneurs to follow up on the foothold, but I think they're out there.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:48 AM, July 12, 2005  

  • Rember LAURA'S RULE NO.I#...Be Nice Or Be Gone. The little people of New Albany thank you for standing up for us. This is the: Little Peoples Blog

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:01 AM, July 12, 2005  

  • They need to put some Outlet Stores downtown. Dollar Tree's. Daily bases alot of Senior Citizens and kids using the pool. But then it goes back to the same ole problem. Parking? 6000 Memberships should be interesting. I feel they should let all City and County people get in free. Difference is just a bigger Country Club. Cause most families in the westend and various people will not be able to afford it.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:08 AM, July 12, 2005  

  • There'll be parking built for the project, and those people will be coming at all different times of the day.

    The YMCA has said often that it will work with low-income and underprivileged in order to enable access.

    Some people have made fun of this and doubted that "scholarships" will be available, but isn't this what the Y's mission is all about?

    Isn't that also what keeping the pool in the hands of the local parks department is all about?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:25 AM, July 12, 2005  

  • The city pledges $400,000, but probably will need only $270,000, so all the county has to do is pledge $135,000 (they already mentioned 100 G's, anyway).

    Both of our main blogs have stories about the county meeting this afternoon. You know ehere they are.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:37 AM, July 12, 2005  

  • For the individual that was asking about the Clean Up New Albany yard signs, they are available at Destinations Booksellers on Spring St. for $6.50 each.

    By Blogger TSOLfan, at 9:57 AM, July 12, 2005  

  • Code Enforcement Officer will no doubt be part of the good old boy club and will turn away from the enfluential people owning rentals in NA. Same story for a different game, the little people will be picked on and the rich will skate.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:10 AM, July 12, 2005  

  • Eyesore of the week--- The Tribune used to run pictures of trashy houses
    called "Eyesore of the Week".

    How about asking them to run that
    topic again?

    This would alert people that we have those eyesores in New Albany, and press the City Administration to start
    to clean up.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:20 PM, July 12, 2005  

  • The Tribune should put these on its web site so they can be e-mailed around to people who don't get the paper.

    I agree that this would be a good step toward bringing recognition to the problem and to the possible soliutions.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:01 PM, July 12, 2005  

  • When are some of you all going to learn! This City is broke. And today you hear about all the needs of the County. You didn't listen before. Do you all need a brick building to fall on you to see the truth? Do you really believe me when I have said in the past the County can not pay for Scribner Place!!!! Some of you would not believe the truth if ALL was laid out too you.. This Adminstration is lying to us! Wake up and smell the "TRUTH" This City is broke.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:56 PM, July 12, 2005  

  • Something I've thought about often is the police patrol car that follows the street sweeper around every street in the city at about 5 mph. Why can't this "officer" be trained to look around during the long, slow drive and site the obvious violations such as untagged cars, overgrown grass, and could even jot down addresses of houses that appear to fall below standards of safety and structural soundness.
    After all, at 5 mph that officer should at least be a part of the code enforcement we are looking for.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 12:56 AM, July 13, 2005  

  • Was "concern taxpayer" at the meeting yesterday?

    Is the money from the city and the county the sasme money?

    What the county council said was that they have many things to consider, including a new jail and Scribner Place and will consider them one at a time.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:26 AM, July 13, 2005  

  • It was Wendy's, not Burger King, and for the umpteenth time, failed job seeker Deatrick has reminded us of his vision.

    Fine. Another Straw man built, and another torn down, but an argument it isn't.

    The thing is, we don't know that Mr. Wheatley isn't pursuing these avenues.

    And, perhaps Tim would lile to note the importance of the service sector in the western world's economy, circa 2005?

    Why does a strong service sector emplyment performance preclude the things Tim mentions?

    Can't both, and shouldn't both, co-exist?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:29 AM, July 13, 2005  

  • The object of Scribner Place and the clean-up campaigns is to make New Albany a better place to live for those who will be sought by the type of higher tech enterprises you mention. You don't snap your fingers and create these jobs, you nurture the landscape in various ways to attract them, and Scribner Place is one tool in that arsenal.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:46 AM, July 13, 2005  

  • To the individual wanting to post pictures for an "Eyesore of the Week", Greg Roberts has been doing this same thing over on the Clean Up New Albany forums, under the Residential area.

    He's not the only one that can, as anyone can post images on the site, so feel free to post over there and upload images of problem properties.

    Heck, you could even start a poll (another feature of Clean Up New Albany) on what properties you think are the worst.

    By Blogger TSOLfan, at 9:18 AM, July 13, 2005  

  • Talk to the police, and they'll tell you they do take note of things like this, but in the current state of non-enforcement, it would be counter-productive for them to participate.

    Several have stated that they're more than willing to be part of the solution once a central authority for ordinance enforcement is established and starts going.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:50 AM, July 13, 2005  

  • Good idea about the police enforcing some ordinances on cars. Go to City code 72.18 PROHIBITED PARKING AREAS.

    SEE LINE (g) Front yard, side yard,
    rear yard.

    SEE LINE (F) ENFORCEMENT-
    The Police Department shall enforce this section.

    Why is the Police Department not
    enforcing this law already on the books?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:09 PM, July 13, 2005  

  • Why not have the City Police police instead of just cruising, especially in low crime hours during the day. Have them be more effective workers much like what they have done with the fireman.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:32 PM, July 13, 2005  

  • Where can we find the code book for these laws?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:37 PM, July 13, 2005  

  • By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:13 PM, July 13, 2005  

  • The whole point is that we need to start somewhere, and we need to start yesterday.
    The inner-city looks like a poor trash town with the exception of a few short stretches of well kept properties.
    But, especially downtown, if we are hoping to attract some small businesses (not chain stores), we must undertake a beautification effort.
    Greg Roberts from ESNA started some discussions about this some time ago. However, the city told us they could not contribute any resources, such as manpower, because there is no money. In other words...we're on our own.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 5:42 PM, July 13, 2005  

  • We certainly are on our own, but that doesn't mean things can't be done.

    Aside from keeping up pressure to get the enforcement officer hired and out on the street, we really need to prioritize lest the size of the job becomes overwhelming.

    I like the ideas about eyesores being published on-line and in the Tribune. Tim introduced the idea about signs identifying deadbeat landlords -- there's a possibility.

    I'd day start by targeting a dozen eyesores/properties, find out who owns them, and put whatever symbolic pressure on them we can while waiting for the officer to hit the streets.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:25 PM, July 13, 2005  

  • Speaking of Huckleberry, does anyone here know why he always makes fun of the pledge of allegiance at city council meetings?

    He didn't do it at the county meeting, probly because Ted Heavrin's kick his you know what for being disrespectful.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:17 PM, July 13, 2005  

  • You gotta give Huckleberry credit for showing up at the right meeting this time, though.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:50 PM, July 13, 2005  

  • The only good thing that came out at last Council Meeting was Code Enforcement Officer. Does anyone wonder why new business are going other places than downtown. Again this City Adminstration is putting all it's eggs in one Basket. At the cost of "The People. Hat's off to Huckleberry! At least The County Council follows the Rules. Instead like The City Council and makes up the Rules! Folks in this town need to look at the real figures. People under estimate Huckleberry knowledge of procedures. Like many other citizens who know and realize our Rights are being violated.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:03 AM, July 14, 2005  

  • Let's all grab are brooms. And let The City furnish the trash bags. Let's take street by street. This is the only way it will be done. We also need to help our elderly Home Owners. Help with repairs. Plant some flowers. Cut there grass.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:13 AM, July 14, 2005  

  • The neighborhood associations that presently exist are (or could be) organized to set up some of the clean-up suggestions here.

    I like the idea about prioritizing and tackling a series of set projects.

    Ultimately, it comes down to isolating, exposing and penalizing property owners who won't play along. Citizens cannot do the latter, but they can do the first two.

    Has anyone asked the Tribune about space for an eyesore, and perhaps doing some investigative work to see who owns the eyesores in question?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:31 AM, July 14, 2005  

  • Someone said that Mr. Huckleberry attended the "right" meeting. Do you mean in the sense of city and county?

    Where does he live, anyway?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:32 AM, July 14, 2005  

  • So if Mr. H'berry joked or laughed through the opening prayer, would he still be a "red commie" as stated by poster named uncle sam?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:20 PM, July 14, 2005  

  • I think what the original poster was referring to is Mr. Huckleberry's habit of concluding the pledge AFTER everyone else, so that he's the only one saying "for all" in an otherwise quiet room.

    I don't agree that it's disresepctful -- it's way too self-indulgent and bizarre for that.

    As for the prayer, the county council doesn't have one, and neither should the city, but that's another topic.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:38 PM, July 14, 2005  

  • Surely Betsy Ross isn't attempting to link Christianity and patriotism.

    It'll be a great day when a lot of Christians return to their senses and start emulating Jesus rather than Karl "The Criminal" Rove.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:17 PM, July 14, 2005  

  • I resemble that remark "Justice Brandeis ". Maybe I'll get my own AM talk radio show.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:05 PM, July 15, 2005  

  • Ol Ronnie A Blowhard returned from vacation,
    Just in time for the little people to give him an education.
    Anonymous said he's was through
    Maybe Ronnie should cry in his brew
    It's time for the little people to go for broke
    and send this evil brewmaster a pig in a poke

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:20 PM, July 31, 2005  

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