Speak Out Loud NA

Friday, July 07, 2006

EastEnder Under The Weather...Few Topics For Discussion While She Is MIA -- GET WELL

While EastEnder is getting physically healthier, WE are posting this in her absence, under her name. We simply hope the issues can be held to a "debate" and not the "haranguing" of certain individuals.

FIRST TOPIC

Sewer Board Meeting this past Tuesday afternoon. These are only bits and pieces of information; there is an audio tape and there will be minute available informing the public of other activities.

First, Mr. Fifer stated he is on the "State Revolving Loan Fund Committee's Agenda" for August trying to get our bond rate lowered or refinance it. This will "save" us $660,000.00. Of course, if he refinance, he will get a percentage of the bonds. We have yet to see a lawyer not make any monies on any Bonds -- whatever they were/are.

The Controller put some things on record. For one month there was income of $177,090.00. Expenditures were $177,140. Balance in cash flow is -$50.00. She will have to borrow to continue operations.

There are seventeen (17) bank accounts for the Sewer Department. The Controller maintains they can not pull sanitation and drainage out of Sewers because this would give the City 19 Bank Accounts, which seemed to be illegal in some manner.

No claims again approved by the Sewer Board. Controller told Sewer Board she sends them a green bar report (which is simply a line item and could hold ghost companies the way it is now) and if she doesn't hear back from them within two days, she automatically pays all claims. The Sewer Board didn't like this time frame, and demanded more. They also told her they did not get a greenbar report, as she stated. The blame was placed at the City Clerk's office for not getting the financial greenbar reports out to the Sewer Board.

The Controller also wanted it known one of our past Controllers, Greg LeMar, did not have a "reserve fund" for our Bonds. He bought insurance.

It was brought up that Redevelopment had six (6) bank accounts, but they were non-interest bearing.

It was mentioned the Bond Covenants were 125%, thus Georgetown's monies are desperately needed.


TOPIC TWO

The City Council President, Mr. Gahan, has scheduled BUDGET HEARINGS for Tuesday, 6:00 PM, at Floyd Memorial Hospital on the lower level. It was suggested to him it be held on a Saturday; the reasoning being so Council could talk to Department Heads.

We have not seen the legal for this. We are being told this may be closed to all but Council; legally they wouldn't be able to do this. We'll update you as well hear more from the press.

Get better, EastEnder. This "ain't" no fun! Have a good day, New Albany!

105 Comments:

  • LAURA--- "GET WELL SOON"

    City Budget for 2007------------

    If the City Administration has emptied
    all the money pots, how will they fund the 2007 City Budget ?

    Already: Garbage rate increase
    Stormwater fee increase
    Sewer rate increase is proposed

    HELP-- WE CANT'T PAY ANY MORE.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:20 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • Response to 2:20 PM............

    Don't worry, the progressives are lining up to drop money in the City Pot and support the Mayor.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:22 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • Did anyone notice at the last Council meeting how Fifer was really dancing with Councilman Price? The supposed 1.9 million is now down to $300,000?

    BTW who put Randall Smith in charge of Policing our Council meetings? Rosenberger seemed unable to answer alot of questions?

    When are the citizens of New Albany going to tell James Garner enough is enough?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:29 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • Can someone tell where it says in the Indiana Code of Laws that it is legal for the blogsites to get the Council
    information on resolutions and on ordinances before the City Council has
    even received it or read it ?

    When did the Indiana Code say that it
    is legal for the bloggers to tell the
    Council President what to do ?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:50 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • Can you tell us where the Indiana Code says it is illegal?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:31 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • HA! DOESN'T THE CITY CLERK KNOW THAT
    SHE IS SUPPOSED TO SIT ON COUNCIL
    AGENDA DOCUMENTS UNTIL THE COUNCIL HAS
    REVIEWED THOSE DOCUMENTS ? ?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:33 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • What a funny pun ! Do you mean that she really has to sit on those agenda
    documents ?

    What a mess our city has turned into.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:35 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • What a funny pun ! Do you mean that she really has to sit on those agenda
    documents ?

    What a mess our city has turned into.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:35 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • Pretty strict laws out there about this kind of goings on. Citizens can always log on to IN.GOV/PAC and ask or look up any laws they may wish to see. This office is the Indiana PUBLIC ACCESS COUNSELOR's website.

    Even though Mr. Smith related that Mr. Kochert urged him to go the "PAC", we heard from Mr. Kochert that would be an outright lie. If anything, Mr. Kochert has asked Mr. Gahan for censure of Mr. Smith for interrupting a meeting and a vote that was in the process of going on. Be careful what you wish for...it just might come true -- except visa-verca.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:53 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • Funny how this web site is so concerned with laws in this case, but so concerned with the public's need to know in everything else....

    So you think the resolution should have gone forward over a holiday weekend with no one there to speak to it? Isn't that against what you all stand for???

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:51 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • Can Anyone Tell Me What The Hey That Last Question Pertains To? If I Knew, Maybe We Could Try And Answer Them! What Resolution? What Does It Have To Do With The 4th Of July? The Resolution Still Has To Be Amended. Tapes And Videos Show The Voted Upon Resolution Was Not Amended By Vote. They Simply Have To Revisit It -- IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, duh...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:49 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • Yeah, I'd be worried about that Public Access Counselor, too.

    You have a great deal of knowledge to acquire as far as to certain issues, which you refuse to debate.

    Next?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:50 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • Valla Ann has reviewed the tape and states it never happen. Tribune error again. Councilman have listen to audio and it is not stated like it is reported in the paper.
    My question is where was Donnie Blevins in all this mess? To damn scared the mayor is holding his job over his head?

    Shame on you Councilman Blevins.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:48 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • Valla Ann has reviewed the tape and states it never happen. Tribune error again. Councilman have listen to audio 218302847683523

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:53 PM, July 07, 2006  

  • delusional

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:37 AM, July 08, 2006  

  • To 5:50 WHAT?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:11 AM, July 08, 2006  

  • to 7:51 Holiday weekend? 4th happened to fall on a Tuesday. DUUUHHHH!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:14 AM, July 08, 2006  

  • ann s. your the leak on main st. big brother is watching you and gigi. you've been busted 911

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:43 AM, July 08, 2006  

  • The resounding of the mortal coil, echoes in the ears of those who are unprepared for it. 948-NAPD

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:14 AM, July 08, 2006  

  • Any clues as to what people and big brother and other nonsense these anons are talking about?

    Distract, distract, distract...

    Council did listen to the audio tapes and are in agreement they didn't vote to change the resolution. The Video, seen by a lot of citizens, clearly shows the confusion in the room that night, but they forgot to make a motion to amend the resolution. That's a fact.

    Shouldn't be any problem that I can see. Won't they just call a "special" meeting, suspend the rules and have the reading? What is the big deal?

    And we're called "conspiracy" buffs, gee -- that old saying must be true. Point one finger at someone and there are 3 pointing back. If the shoe fits, wear it.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:54 PM, July 08, 2006  

  • Here's some more news. There is a link to the Floyd County Court system and guess who the Mayor's Attorney was during his 1st marriage? You get 3 guesses, and the first two may not count.

    Will wonders ever cease in this town?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:00 PM, July 08, 2006  

  • Wow, that's like ... completely irrelevant to anything, isn't it?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:34 AM, July 09, 2006  

  • Not if some on both sides of that Council table would like to see Mr. Ulrich replaced as their Attorney. Is it now relevant enough for you?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:41 AM, July 09, 2006  

  • Big Brother? i doubt Vicki even knows what that really means.

    What a nut.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:10 AM, July 09, 2006  

  • New Albany is getting to nearer the top of the "Best Seller List " every day.

    If true, as quoted earlier in comments, that City Council Attorney
    Ulrich was the Mayor's attorney in a
    divorce from his first marriage.

    Then, we have a suggestion--- just move Attroney Ulrich over to City Attorney to serve under the Mayor, and, then, move City Attorney
    Shane Gibson over to the seat of
    City Council Attorney.

    Musical chairs is what this city administrtion does best anyway.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:16 PM, July 09, 2006  

  • Isn't that the God's truth! All three of them maybe rolled into 1 might get you a good one. Maybe.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:07 PM, July 09, 2006  

  • Have you left anyone else out as a target for the witch hunt?

    I'm sure there's a custodian at the city county building who might be balmed for something about monies or loonies.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:24 PM, July 09, 2006  

  • Thanks everyone for the well wishes! I am starting to feel better and will be back on board soon.
    There are certainly a lot of issues to discuss and a whole lot of questionable actions that have taken place over the last couple of weeks.
    The most disappointing event however has to be the absence of CM Blevins at the last Council meeting. What a load of crap and a complete cop out from a CM that we thought had some common sense.
    How many times does Garner have to screw you Donnie?
    How many times does he have to lie, to threaten, to intimidate you, into casting your vote 'HIS' way? What a chump!
    You reap what you sow Donnie. Hope you're prepared.
    BTW, hope you had no plans for a re-election run, 'cause you're done. You hooked your cart to Garner's sad ass, and you will leave with him in '07.
    Other than this, I am very curious to know just WHY Kay Gerry said some of the things that were reportedly said by her in the last sewer board meeting.
    Why are they still discussing a Controller from the last administration?
    Is this but the beginnings of the blame game Garner will be running on for his re-election campaign?
    How pitiful.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 10:31 PM, July 09, 2006  

  • listen to the tape conspiracy monger

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:12 AM, July 10, 2006  

  • CORRECTION:

    Due to a reader's error, Mr. Ulrich was NOT Mr. Garner's attorney. He was the Judge Pro-Tem. Sorry for the confusion and mistake.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:37 AM, July 10, 2006  

  • Just as irrelevant as it was before, but thanks for the correction.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:40 AM, July 10, 2006  

  • Feeling the need to REALLY VENT, I apologize EastEnder for using your spotlight for such thing.

    Anyways, it REALLY bothers me the hospital is playing "politics" by hosting the City's (OUR) Budget Hearing tomorrow evening. We do not feel the Hospital ought to be involved in any way, shape or form. The meeting COULD HAVE BEEN HELD ON A SATURDAY at the City Council Building, where it should be.

    If they can not keep track of documents inside the City-County Building, do you really believe we feel comfortable in them transporting documents to and from locations? It is also convenient the Mayor's mother, Kaye Garry and another Democrat running for office (Darrell Mills) are on the Board of Directors.

    But, the kicker of it all is in the fact that Tuesday evening the Mayor and his Administration is only planning on the "budget hearing" lasting thirty (30) minutes. Unfortunately for the Council, which is suppose to be controlling this meeting, the "Democrat Party" has scheduled Tuesday night as the "Mayor's" night at the local 4-H.

    Therefore, the "Mayor's" night is more important than the City and its' budget (US).

    This is how we feel, and last time we checked, we're allowed.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:16 PM, July 10, 2006  

  • 1:16 PM---- You are right, we are
    proud of our hospital and Floyd County Memorial Hospital should not be mixed up in politics. The City Council should conduct their business in the City County Building.

    The Hospital Board should really be more careful in making decisions that
    appear to mix the hospital in politics. Does anyone know who is on
    the hospital Board of Directors?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:47 PM, July 10, 2006  

  • Is the Hospital Board of Directors
    Democrat or Republican Party supporters?

    As far as we know, the hospital has never been mixed up in politics before.

    In this town, public image is very
    important for the success of any
    institution, and we have too much
    money invested in our hospital to mess with politics.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:06 PM, July 10, 2006  

  • The Hospital has gotten more involved in City business since Dr. Garner's son took over as mayor.
    Remember, it was the Hospital that donated the houses to the CHDO for the infamous Linden Meadows project.
    It could have been a good project, with great benefits, if it had been handled correctly by City officials (more ineptness).
    Amazingly, Jimmy has been "hands-off" on this one, and basically no help at all in advancing the opportunities inherent in such housing developments.
    The City should have handled any disputes over the land before "donating" it to a non-profit organization with good intentions.
    Again, Jimmy has left frustration, anger and disappointment in his wake. He simply is NOT a good mayor, nor does he possess the necessary aptitude for such a position.
    As for holding City budget hearings at the hospital, we find it completely unprofessional and possibly problematic as it relates to proper protocol.
    Of COURSE they are holding the meeting on a weekday when most of the public is unable to attend, as well as many City department heads.
    Don't worry, we'll be there anyway.
    If Randy tries to throw folks out like he did at last year's budget hearings, he will get thrown out himself.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 9:13 PM, July 10, 2006  

  • We should probably ask Heathblogger the question about the political situation at Floyd Memorial.

    Personally, I feel it is. The ruling party is Democrat. The Mayor's mother sits on the Board, the Controller of our City sits on the Board, a Floyd County Police Officer up for Sheriff on the Democrat ticket sits on the Board -- I don't know -- what do you think?

    You would like to think it would not be that way, but I really think we may should direct the question to someone who knows intimately the goings on inside same. Good question, if I may say so. Do they not control the Board of Health Directors, also? Does one of the County Commissioners (Democrat) sit on it?

    List goes on.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:48 PM, July 10, 2006  

  • Why in the world is having the meeting at the hospital unprofessional? Its a public facility, publicly funded and has more than enough parking space.

    You are ate up

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:41 PM, July 10, 2006  

  • For 1/2 an hour so they can get out Green Valley to the 4-H real quick, maybe?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:14 AM, July 11, 2006  

  • I don't understand. Could someone explain why holding the meeting at the hospital is so upsetting?

    I understand the day and time problem.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 9:55 AM, July 11, 2006  

  • Everyone should take a minute to read what's over at Freedom of Speech.
    They have made some good points and it is well written.
    We send out a big THANKS! for all the hard work they do at FOS to bring more facts to light and to challenge Garner's reasoning and actions.
    The truth hurts when it is something they don't want to hear or acknowledge. FOS stands in there and takes a lot of beatings because FOS refuses to let things get shoved under the rug.
    I say HOORAY for you!

    By Blogger East Ender, at 4:49 PM, July 11, 2006  

  • I find it amusing that you felt the need to comment on how "well written" the piece on FOS is.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 5:34 PM, July 11, 2006  

  • a college professor ought to be able to do more than just list plaintiffs in a lawsuit and ask about thier voter status, come on professor where's that brilliant essay on the merits of the case?

    Cite some of the research you have read or your own PhD research on these kinds of issues.

    You disappoint your loyal followers Erik/ Erika. OH well you can always fake another profession, how about local govt. watchdog, thats right your information is always suspect isnt it?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:50 PM, July 11, 2006  

  • 5:50 anonymous,

    I respect the folks at Freedom Of Speech. It takes guts and courage to ask the hard questions and back things up with facts. So what facts have you got anonymous?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:59 PM, July 11, 2006  

  • Well written?

    It's true that the quality of Erika’s writing definitely improves when she reprints articles I’ve written, even if they’re a year and a half old.

    How flattering that she thinks so highly of me.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 7:03 PM, July 11, 2006  

  • I am thankful for all the complaining I hear about our local government, because it means we still have freedom of speech.

    That's one f--k'n thing this adminstration can't charge us for.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:42 PM, July 11, 2006  

  • new albanian your so out of touch with reality. Your lawsuit is political motivated. Your an insult to small town USA. Your jealous of FOS Your just nothing but a sandbox bully with a small shovel.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:50 PM, July 11, 2006  

  • AMEN ANONYMOUS..

    "Without free speech no search for truth is possible." NOT IN THIS TOWN.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:01 PM, July 11, 2006  

  • Don't piss your favorite mayor off roger. He might want to close your business down.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:08 PM, July 11, 2006  

  • get your progressive gang together and pull your little red wagons and pick up the trash and clean up our alleys.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:10 PM, July 11, 2006  

  • At least Roger doesn't pretend to be something he ain't -- which is more than FOS can ever say.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:54 PM, July 11, 2006  

  • lookie yonder comin comin down that main street track. lookie yonder coming, comin down that main street track , its that FOS special and it's bringin the political attacks back.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:32 PM, July 11, 2006  

  • Soooooo jealous! You all are so pissed off that you can't comment on FOS's blog that you will say anything just to have a conversation with each other on this blog. So SAD and rather humerus.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:42 PM, July 11, 2006  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:36 AM, July 12, 2006  

  • HEY LIL TIMMY.SEE YOU STILL HAVE TO USE ONE OF YOUR MANY ALAISES.IF YOU STAY IN SCHOOL LONG ENOUGHT MAYBE YOU WILL GET A REAL JOB & MOVE OUT OF MOMS HOUSE. IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR NA IF YOU AND THE MAYOR STARTED PAYING PROPERTY TAXES.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:40 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • HEY ROGER, I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE MY OWN EYES WHILE READING YOUR ARTICLE OF 1/6/05. THIS MUST HAVE BEEN WRITTEN BEFORE YOU TURNED TO THE DARK SIDE(DARTH VADER). I CHALLENGE YOU TO POST THE SAME ARTICLE ADDRESSED TO OUR BELOVED MAYOR DATED TODAY.I WILL BE LOOKING AT YOUR BLOG

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:58 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • Dick, I believe that Roger has since changed his mind, so why would he post something he doesn't believe?

    Oh-dang are people not allowed to change their minds?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:04 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • Dick, as far as I am concerned, if you don't pay those property taxes and those other "bills, bills that kill" (quoting Indiana's son John Mellancamp), I don't think they even deserve a say in any matter that concerns the bills WE PAY, not MOMMA. Keep up the good work, Dick. And you are right, only Little Timmy can be that nasty to you and have no brain.

    Proudly state I admire you and your tenacity!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:08 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • Here are some acronyms for ya today, NA.

    Do you know what BITCH stands for?

    Being In Total Control, Honey!

    As a person who actually read Playboy, in there they say the word "fuck", which I use to not even allow said in my presence, came from the Brits.

    They files sex crimes under carnal knowledge. Thus they became know as the "fuck" files. Doesn't sound as bad once you know what it means, hey?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:10 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • MS. K, if you really wanted to go along with the reasoning that Tim shouldn't have a say, then wouldn't it be fair to say that in households where there is a stay-at-home-parent, that you feel they didn't have the right to speak their mind about how New Albany should be run?

    tsk, tsk.

    Tim may lack social skills but he still works and contributes to the taxes when he gets a paycheck.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:23 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • I would be interested in Ms. K's response to that line of reasoning.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 3:50 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • Wow. Where is the person who almost immediately removes posts from this blog? You're slacking.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:57 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • HEY LIL TIMMY. YOU CAN PROBABLY GET REGISTERED NOW SINCE THEY OUTLAWED INTELLENGCE TESTS. WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE. MAYBE I COULD GET YOUR GARBAGE DUMPER JOB BACK FOR YOU.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:01 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:36 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • Ting tim is to busy stalking. Maury is to busy making 1-900 maury calls. And Randy is to busy being up the Mayors ass. And roger is to busy playing "bully in the sand box"

    Have we left anyone out?

    Oh by the way Laura as we all know NAC is never right!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:05 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • IAMHOOSIER,

    Please don't try and make me explain anyone's line of reasoning, please I beg of you!!

    It doesn't matter what I think, except what I posted.

    Thank you for your question, though.

    By Blogger A Democrat in Floyd County, at 5:44 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • I am appalled at the thingsa I have found going on here.
    Someone has re-created my screen name and put up a couple of obviously FALSE statements posing as myself.
    They have since been removed.
    They also linked the screen name to an unsavory web site.
    Looks like a slam-dunk lawsuit waiting to happen.
    Everyone note:
    I am NOT in agreement with NAC and have no intentions of abandoning my support for CM's Coffey & Price.
    Make no mistakes; my screen name is 2 seperate words: East Ender
    Their copy is one word: Eastender.
    This type of slander will not go unpunished.
    Furthermore, the lewd language and the insulting exchanges have gone far enough.
    Henceforth, we will delete anyone who uses abusive language, threats, personal attacks, or insults. ANYONE!
    The use of anonymity to facilitate such tactics has forced me to take proactive measures concerning the origins of these rude, and unwelcomed attacks.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 11:03 PM, July 12, 2006  

  • A Demo...,
    Thanks for responding. That is more than anyone else did for another question that I had asked about 48 hours ago.

    Let me ask another question concerning your comment about paying propery taxes. Should a person who pays more in property taxes than you do, have more say than you? More votes, say 1 vote for every $100 paid in property taxes?

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 8:17 AM, July 13, 2006  

  • "White woman speak with forked tounge, Kemosabe!"

    Why do these stay and others go? There you go with that double standard again!

    Can't say as I blame you about the simular name, I would be mad too! But if your going to hit the delete key, you missed a few!

    Give you a hint, Lil Timmy is the poster! But DICK STEWART is the ass!

    ___________________________________


    DICKSTEWART said...
    HEY LIL TIMMY.SEE YOU STILL HAVE TO USE ONE OF YOUR MANY ALAISES.IF YOU STAY IN SCHOOL LONG ENOUGHT MAYBE YOU WILL GET A REAL JOB & MOVE OUT OF MOMS HOUSE. IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR NA IF YOU AND THE MAYOR STARTED PAYING PROPERTY TAXES.

    1:40 PM, July 12, 2006

    Anonymous said...
    Ting tim is to busy stalking. Maury is to busy making 1-900 maury calls. And Randy is to busy being up the Mayors ass. And roger is to busy playing "bully in the sand box"

    Have we left anyone out?

    Oh by the way Laura as we all know NAC is never right!

    5:05 PM, July 12, 2006

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:22 AM, July 13, 2006  

  • Tim is NOT the poster!

    See even us genius college professors make mistakes!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:24 AM, July 13, 2006  

  • EE,
    We disagree on many things but I am in total agreement with you on the blankety blank who did those postings.

    I am no saint by any means but I don't tell the same jokes in the middle of a public mall that I might tell at an all night poker game. Some people have no upbringing at all.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 8:25 AM, July 13, 2006  

  • Laura, there's a good discussion under way at NAC. Why don't you drop the hostility, go over there, and take part.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:57 AM, July 13, 2006  

  • IAMHOOSIER:

    No, I don't feel you should have "extra" votes for each $100 say of whatever it is you may own.

    One vote is plenty -- shame we can't get people out to vote that ONE vote.

    We were talking "property taxes", and how some don't pay them. The single mother at home (doubts she owns that home, too) but her vote counts as much as anyone elses -- on issues involving our property taxes. But, if you don't pay 'em, I say you have no argument (or beef) in this matter.

    By Blogger A Democrat in Floyd County, at 12:04 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • i didn't say single mother. I said a parent who stays at home and doesn't work, but the other one does. More then likely it's going to be the spouse who works whose name is going to be on the property taxes.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:19 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • Excuse me. If they are registered to vote (both of them), they get two votes. It still doesn't matter as to how many material items or wealth they may have.

    And with a parent working with one parent at home, I have a feeling that person's responsibilities at home may be as great as that person who works out in the great corporate world.

    No, I still don't think Timmy paying (I didn't know he had a job) his income taxes gives him or me more rights than anyone else.

    My feelings are still with Dick Stewart in so far as if he doesn't pay PROPERTY TAXES; he can't argue the property tax point with ME and make any headway, whatsoever. Until then, have a good day.

    By Blogger A Democrat in Floyd County, at 2:18 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • a demo...,
    Thanks again for responding.

    Would you not agree that voting is a way(a big one)of having a "say"? Are you advocating that if a person does not pay property taxes they should not be allowed to vote in city elections?

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 2:24 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • For the record, my wife and I do own our house in New Albany. It is also paid for. I know Dave Ramsey and Councilman Price would be happy about that.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 2:28 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • a dem, you are arguing a technicallity strictly because you don't like "timmy". As long as property taxes are paid on his abode then all those living under the roof should get the opportunity to voice their opinions on how taxes are spent.

    yes the sahm mom has just as important job as the out of the house worker, but that wasn't the point.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:04 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • A demo.....,
    Sorry, my post at 2:24 was written before I saw your 2:18 post.

    So do I have it right now? You will not listen to, nor learn anything about property taxes, from someone who does not pay them.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 3:39 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • No iamhoosier, that's not what's being said the way I read it.
    It's that if someone doesn't pay property taxes, their opinions on how property tax dollars are, or aren't spent, have no merit.
    Using the same logic as: Don't Vote? Don't Complain!

    By Blogger East Ender, at 4:15 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • riiiiiight, so technically a spouse who stays at home, and doesn't bring any money into the household, and whose name isn't on the property taxes doesn't have the right to speak about how they are spent?

    Isn't that what you are saying?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:44 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • EE,

    I assume you are addressing my 2:24 post about voting. I did post a correction since I had not read her followup.

    So, using your line of logic, no pay=your opinions have no merit. The balance to that equation has to be, the more you pay=the more merit your opinion has.

    You would not listen to opinions on property taxes from a renter in NA but would listen to the opinions of a NA property owner who lived in Timbuktu?

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 5:06 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • Where's Blogtastic? Would love to hear his/hers point of view. I thought it was an excellent article on Freedom Of Speech. Seems like everyone is missing a big point. The mayor is the boss. He picks his own Dept. heads. Then the next issue is $$$$$$$$.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:16 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • RE: the property tax issue.

    We are currently renting our home. And yes we have owned a home in the past and paid property taxes.

    I have not commented on this issue because being a temporary renter I do not feel that I have the right to say how other people's property taxes are spent.

    As to Tim living in his mother's home; when I was younger and lived in my parent's home I did not have a say in how they spent their money. I contributed to the household income but it was their house and they paid the mortgage and property taxes. Since the home is in his mother's name, she is the only person who should have a say in how her property tax dollars are spent.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:31 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • by the same token Shirley renters should have no say so or opinion on how property taxes are spent, so parents who rent and like to use the library, send their kids to school, or may want to have a downtown Y should not be able to speak about the property tax back up to the Scribner place bonds?

    Now thats not quite like the philosophy of the people this blog is supposed to speak out loud for

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:00 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • lets not forget though your heroes dan coffey and steve price talked about all the renters in town and how they cant afford a Y membership and how pledging property taxes is like putting a lien on the property they dont own, but they sure liked to use renters as an excuse to try and kill Scribner palce didnt they and how Price and Coffey wanted a referendum on the scribner place bonds, but renters shouldnt be able to vote on that RIGHT?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:15 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • ARE THEY REGISTERED? SURE THEY CAN. BRING IT ON, I WOULD LIKE NOTHING BETTER THAN A REFERENDUM ON SCRIBNER (AND THE Y), SEEING I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:37 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • how about a referendum on whether dan coffey should stay in office, never mind that will be in 07 bye bye coffey

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:59 PM, July 13, 2006  

  • Has anyone heard anything about a piece of property on the Corydon Pike that is being considered for a "TOW-IN" lot? Rumor has it, the city and/or a private concern wants to start yet another "junk-
    yard" on the Pike. Lordy Day, it hasn't been long since we got rid of the "Trailer Court Junkyards".

    We are now dealing with Mr. Andres, (and I use "Mr." lightly) the cancer that is spreading throughout the city and county. Could we be faced with this added dilemma............

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:25 AM, July 14, 2006  

  • PLEASE, PLEASE, let the Schmidts and Dan Coffey go free. Who called "open season" on these people? Were you issued a "hunting" license? If not, I believe you need one. Find someone else to beat with a stick. Give it a rest already, you "birds of prey"!

    And to think, I, thought about running for a political office in NA. What was I thinking?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:48 AM, July 14, 2006  

  • Tell Them To Put Their Money Where Their Mouth Is!!!!!!!! And their Time, and their Energies, and their Phones Ringing Constantly about problems NO ONE CAN SEEM TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT.

    Please, give us a break.

    By Blogger A Democrat in Floyd County, at 5:29 AM, July 14, 2006  

  • A Democrat in Floyd County said "their Phones Ringing Constantly about problems NO ONE CAN SEEM TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT."

    Including the dynamic duo! Because they don't want to do anything! But sit around complain about everyone but themselves, oh yeah, while they pat each other on the back.

    As to open season, when your an elected official you put yourself and family out there on the line. Damned if I would want to run for any office, I like my skeletons right where they are, deep in the back of the closet.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:18 AM, July 14, 2006  

  • I did not say renters should not have a vote. But I do not think we should have a say in the question of property taxes being used to back the bonds for Scribner.

    As far as people sending their children to school, I know property taxes are used to fund the schools. This has never quite seemed fair to me since many property oweners do not have children in school, but I don't make the laws.

    By the same token, the parents of the school children should and do have a say in the way the schools are ran. If the parent is responsible and attends the PTA meetings and parent/teacher conferences they DO have a say.

    Originally, the issue of property taxes backing the bonds was not included in the contract. Jack Messer introduced this change at a council meeting last year.

    I agree that there should be some sort of vote on this but the people who pay the property taxes should be the people making this decision.

    I was not putting down the little people in any way if I read correctly that this was what was being implied. I just do not think it is fair for non property owners to tell the City how the property taxes should be spent.

    BTW I also feel that people need to quit using this blog as a tool to beat up on certain council members. There are plenty of other outlets for that. This is NOT a political blog. Right Laura?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:59 AM, July 14, 2006  

  • Shirley,
    My wife and I are property owners who do not have children. The concept of using taxes(whatever kind)for education goes under several names but one is "shared responsiblity" and another is "for the overall good of society". An educated population is good for the whole, which includes you and me, therefore we help contribute.

    Everyone can debate what kind of taxes(property, income, sales, etc)should be used for such things but that is the general concept. At least as I understand it.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 8:44 AM, July 14, 2006  

  • I cannot understand the big deal about the property tax back up of the bonds. That back up effectively cuts the taxpayers' cost significantly... $50,000 per year... $75,000 per year.

    Ultimately we know the city will pay those bonds. They represent but a small portion of the EDIT monies.

    Sounds like a very wise move to use the back up and save US money.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:07 AM, July 14, 2006  

  • The anti-communal instincts of taxpayer "advocates" are well know and documented.

    Another word for it is selfishness.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:02 AM, July 14, 2006  

  • Valla Ann wrote and excellent article on Freedom Of Speech. Seems to me she is just telling it the way it really is.

    We need more good citizens like her in New Albany.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:09 PM, July 14, 2006  

  • Our office emploees read it this morning. Very upfront tell it like it is comments.
    Great post highly recommend for all to read.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:50 PM, July 14, 2006  

  • I greatly admire Ms. Bolovschak skills and abilities of being a well informed professional writer and business person.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:06 PM, July 14, 2006  

  • Does anyone know where blogtastic is?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:54 PM, July 14, 2006  

  • I also read the article on Freedom of Speech. I thought it was excellent. Valla Ann has great insight into the problems facing our city.

    Of course, I always enjoy reading Freedom of Speech. This blog always has the latest information and backs it up with the facts.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:39 AM, July 15, 2006  

  • With all the rain we had the last 2-3 days, does anyone know how the sewer system performed? Were there any overflows?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:24 PM, July 15, 2006  

  • SO ALL OF YOU PEOPLE THAT RENT---OVER 40% OF YOU IN THE CITY---V-ANN THINKS YOU ARE OF QUESTIONABLE CHARACTER AND LOW RENT AND SHE IS UPSET THAT SHE HAS TO LIVE AROUND YOU-----I SAY----LETS COMPARE POLICE RECORDS OVER THE PAST YEAR AND WE WILL SEE WHO IS OF QUESTIONABLE CHARACTER.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:10 PM, July 15, 2006  

  • I'm one of the 40% renters. And I do disagree with you. I have had the pleasure of having Valla Ann to my little rented home. And she was very gracious and kind. She never seem to question our families character! As far as police records, I will be happy to show you my record if you show me yours..
    It's sad people like you who are evil and jealous. Don't you really think it's time to get over your jealous anger? These comments are very unbecoming of you.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:33 PM, July 15, 2006  

  • Shirley - I agree with you about the property tax issues, and the right to an opinion on how those taxes are spent.
    Furthermore, you are absolutely correct that this blog is NOT a political campaigh forum.
    We are here to discuss the issues facing New Albany.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 3:05 AM, July 16, 2006  

  • Like I stated earlier, I am a renter and I did not think that Valla Ann's comments were demeaning to renters in general.

    She was blasting the Slumlords and rightfully so. These people are taking advantage of others who have less than they have and that is just plain wrong!

    PS Thank you Laura for your kind words.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:44 AM, July 16, 2006  

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