Time for Action!
OK folks. We have talked and talked about all the problems that are facing our city and the possibilities of corruption. It is time to unite, stand together, and be heard.
We are forming a citizens group which is tentatively being called "Citizens for Democracy". If anyone would like to suggest a different name, we are welcoming suggestions.
Through this group we intend to let the administration know that we are aware of the insufficiencies and the improprieties that are occuring blatently in view of the public sector.
We know this is not the first administration to engage in such behavior, but Garner has gone well beyond mediocrity, and is putting this city in jeopardy for the next 17 years.
There must be an intervention, and we intend to make one.
I am in contact with the State Board of Accounts, and the Deprtment of Local Government Finance (tax Commissioners).
The 2004 audit is currently underway, which is the first year of Garner's administration. It should be very revealing.
There are many other issues we are looking at, and other avenues of objection we have open to us.
For those who wish to participate, continue to e-mail me personally. To those who already have, I thank you all for your committment to set this city straight, and refuse to stand by and watch as mistake after mistake is being made.
If Garner had any character, he would come out and say that he has made mistakes, learned from them, and will try to do better. Instead, all we hear is silence or excuses.
His time for making amends is past.
73 Comments:
form it as a PAC and take Garner and his council puppets : Messer, Crump, Blevins and Gahan out in '07
By Anonymous, at 7:05 PM, September 01, 2005
Laura: Thank you, for your work and good ideas. I like the title,
CITIZENS FOR DEMOCRACY.
I think that the word DEMOCRACY stands for: FAIRNESS
EQUALITY
HUMAN KINDNESS
HONESTY
NON-POLITICAL
FOR ALL THE PEOPLE
Our current City Administration
is not aware of the meaning
of the word, "DEMOCRACY".
By Anonymous, at 8:14 PM, September 01, 2005
Please try to refrain from using profanity in our discussions. We are all adults, and have a larger vocabulary available to us. We don't need to use foul language.
Thank you for your cooperation.
By East Ender, at 10:54 PM, September 01, 2005
Garner is a chicken.
The tribune, aka the 'Bune, has a chicken editor who can only talk about sports.
CFD PAC I'm in.
Let's take out GGMCB
By Anonymous, at 6:48 AM, September 02, 2005
I have freedom of speech, you have freedom of censorship!
By Anonymous, at 8:31 AM, September 02, 2005
Messer and Crump being union people have turned their backs on the Sanitation workers.
Will see what happens when this Mayor turns his back on the Police Dept. and the other Unions.
In this Sundays Tribune the 2006 budget will be printed. Including the 2.5 raise's for City Employee's. But Garner is going to allow 26 employees lose their jobs. And all their Insurance Benfits. Shame on you James Garner, Beverly Crump, Jack Messer!
Who will be next?
By Anonymous, at 8:38 AM, September 02, 2005
As the Donald says:
Your Fired:
James Garner
Tony Torran
Adam Dickey
Shane Gibson
Jack Messer
Beverly Crump
Chief Harl
Jeff Gayhan
Seabrook
Donnie Blevins
You represent The Mayor. Not the people of New Albany
By Anonymous, at 9:00 AM, September 02, 2005
VERY WELL SAID, DONALD
By Anonymous, at 9:10 AM, September 02, 2005
Laura: Can the new group that is being formed do something about the mess we have in New Albany City Government?
Council members Messer and Blevins are city employees controlled by Mayor Garner.
Council member Crump's husband is a police retiree of the city.
How can they ever vote for what is
really best for the city, if the
Mayor controls them?
By Anonymous, at 9:25 AM, September 02, 2005
east ender--What about: "Concerned Citizens for Democracy."
Since this citizens group will represent all of us Little People in New Albany.
This is long over due! Concern taxpayer has been talking citizens group for month's. As well as a Watch Dog Group. Count me in!
We need action NOW!
Council meeting next thursday. We need to be heard.
By Anonymous, at 10:22 AM, September 02, 2005
Sept.3 article in CJ;
Off-duty Police must park patrol cars.
My questions is Chief Merle Harl going to keep driving his car home to Washington County?
So they still get to do their grocery shopping and laundry and what ever errands they choose to use their police cars for? At the cost of the Taxpayers of New Albany?
So since about half live outside the City they are suppose to park their police cars in their drive ways? So who is going to check and see that they do it?
In the past New Albany Police cars have been spotted at "HOOTER'S"...Greentree Mall.. Also going to Louisville!
I guess Garner got wind the Council was getting ready to lower the hammer on them!
I now wonder what it would take to get all these people to turn in their cell phones. That the taxpayers are paying monthly bills on?
We can only wish!
By Anonymous, at 2:29 PM, September 02, 2005
How can anyone believe ot trust Chief Harl when he himself breaks the laws!
By Anonymous, at 2:30 PM, September 02, 2005
Chief Harl is not even a resident of New Albany.
He can't run for office!
Beside that he's Garners Boy.
By Anonymous, at 3:23 PM, September 02, 2005
First of all, the law changed regarding a Police Chief having to live in the County he represents. A pretty stupid thing to me, but I guess it lets the Mayor pick and choose as he pleases.
As for the suggestion of Concered Citizens for Democracy, I really like that. If everyone agrees, we'll go with that. I think it says it all.
As for cleaning up this mess of City government in New Albany, that's exactly what we intend to do. It CAN be done, and we're gonna do it!!!
By East Ender, at 4:12 PM, September 02, 2005
I really like that "Concerned Citizens FOR Democracy" that seems to say it all....
It reminds me of Concern Taxpayer who writes on your blog. Who ever it is they sure have strong convictions. Our family wants to join. Great job Laura putting this together...
By Anonymous, at 5:35 PM, September 02, 2005
Concerned Citizens for Democracy
This is
Great
By One voice, at 5:42 PM, September 02, 2005
It's about time we organized. We Do have a voice. And were fed up with what is going on in our town.
My family will support Concerned Citizens for Democracy.
By Anonymous, at 7:18 PM, September 02, 2005
Great job Laura. Concern citizens for democracy. Are you going to speak at City Council meeting this coming thursday? I think we need to contact the Council members to have a town meeting. Let's get to the bottom of these problems. We all have alot of questions needed answered.
By Anonymous, at 7:57 PM, September 02, 2005
Police Chief Harl is not a New Albany resident. He also does not follow the
laws on the books. I am sure the lady he appointed as Code Enforcement Officer is a nice person and probably quialified to do a good job.
Harl did not follow the law on the books for that appointment. He and Garner are probably just laughing their heads off as they think they pulled a fast one on the City Concil.
I hope the Council looks into this and makes them follow the law.
Again-- no criticism of the lady,
just the people she happens to work for. I am sure she can do a good job.
By Anonymous, at 11:10 PM, September 02, 2005
"CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR DEMOCRACY"
GREAT TITLE--- GO FOR IT.
WE NEED YOU TO HELP CLEAN UP THE MESS IN NEW ALBANY.
By Anonymous, at 11:12 PM, September 02, 2005
The support we are receiving for the "Concerned Citizens for Democracy" is overwhelming. There are a lot of people in this town that just aren't willing to sit back and watch it happen anymore.
To everyone who is getting involved, we thank you and look forward to worjing with you to bring this city back the pride it once had.
Keep those e-mails coming!!!
By East Ender, at 12:53 AM, September 03, 2005
It's time for us to take out City back. Concern taxpayer was right. Were mad as "Hell and were not going to take it anymore" We have had enough.
By Anonymous, at 7:30 AM, September 03, 2005
We no longer want excuses from this Mayor. We want action. Were tired of the lies and poor management of this City. And the power plays done by certain Council Members. Gayhan, Messer, Crump, Blevins, Seabrook.. They have truly turned their backs on the people of New Albany who have elected them to office. Promises made and promises "Not Kept" should be their new slogan. "Valla Ann" needs to step up to the plate and help the people of this City. She can make things happen. We should of listen to her month's ago. Were all fed up with this Adminstration. Doug screwed us-Regina screwed us, and now idiot Garner is trying to screw us. The time is now to stand together for the betterment of the people and for all the people of New Albany.
By Anonymous, at 7:58 AM, September 03, 2005
Where is Concern Taxpayer?
By Anonymous, at 8:08 AM, September 03, 2005
HOW CAN THE MAYOR , BOARD OF WORKS TORAN, AND HARL GET BY WITHOUT FOLLOWING THE LAW ON THE BOOKS?
WILL THE STATE STEP IN AND HELPCLEAN UP NEWALBANY?
By Anonymous, at 8:16 AM, September 03, 2005
Maybe the Indiana State Police would
step in and investigate Chief Harl for
not following the law when he jumped in and appointed the Code Enforcement Officer.
As was stated in an earlier comment,
these remarks are not directed toward
the lady appointed. I am sure that she will do a good job.
By Anonymous, at 8:19 AM, September 03, 2005
What about City Attroney Shane Gibson,
does he just turn his head and ignore
Chief Harl as Harl ignores the law?
By Anonymous, at 8:20 AM, September 03, 2005
ANONYMOUS: I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE TO YOU, BUT, DON'T YOU KNOW THAT GARNER'S CITY ATTORNEY SHANE GIBSON, IS APPOINTED BY MAYOR GARNER?
POLICE CHIEF HARL IS ALSO APPOINTED BY GARNER.
WHY DOESN'T THE STATE COME IN AND CLEAN UP NEW ALBANY?
By Anonymous, at 8:33 AM, September 03, 2005
Boy, am I dumb? I just figured out what the signs CLEAN UP NEW ALBANY
really mean. I thought they meant
clean up the trash, but, they could mean CLEAN UP THE ADMINISTRATION MESS
IN NEW ALBANY.
I AM GOING OUT AND BUY A SIGN.
By Anonymous, at 8:38 AM, September 03, 2005
DUH!!!
By Anonymous, at 9:06 AM, September 03, 2005
hey Donald dont forget the following your'e fired:
Paul "boy wonder" Wheatley
Randy Hampton
Gary "Reisert Clone" Beck
John "Scribner Place" Rosenbarger
Steve "Snake" LaDuke
and many more
By Anonymous, at 2:42 PM, September 03, 2005
Where in the hell is Concern Taxpayer? We need your thoughts and ideas!
By Anonymous, at 9:39 PM, September 03, 2005
This Mayor is planning to sign the contract on sanitation service for New Albany on tuesday. He is hell bent to show the people he is going to do what ever he wants. So Mayor get ready you are going to see the Power of a United Group of People. Because the Concern Citizens for Democracy are fed up and were not going to back down.
The Little People of New Albany
By Anonymous, at 9:54 PM, September 03, 2005
Robert Martin family-
Well said. You reflect the sentiments of many citizens of this City.
We will begin our battle soon.
As for the stunt pulled in "assigning" a code enforcement officer...I am curious to know where the allotted $30K salary is going.
Is this how Garner and his staff are giving themselves raises?
Why raises? They certainly haven't earned them. Their work has been way below acceptable.
By East Ender, at 2:26 AM, September 04, 2005
I have heard that Chief Harl is going to try to move the $30,000 alloted for the Ordinance Enforcement Officer over to his budget in Police Dept.
I think that the $30,000. was listed in the 2005 budget under the line of
City Attorney.
Is City Attorney, Shane Gibson, helping Chief Harl to continue not
following the law?
WHY DOESN'T THE CITY COUNCIL WAKE UP
AND STOP THIS LAW BREAKING?
CITY COUNCIL-- WHERE ARE YOU ?????
By Anonymous, at 1:07 PM, September 04, 2005
We should Boycott any and all business connected to Mayor James Garner. For interesting listing of Sponsors: Check this out.
www.destinationbooksellers.com
James The Cleaner just happens to be on this list?
WAKE UP NEW ALBANY AND BOYCOTT THESE BUSINESS!
By Anonymous, at 9:01 AM, September 05, 2005
What a mess! Do you mean that Mayor
Garner as James The Cleaner is sponsoring Destinations Bookstore?
By Anonymous, at 9:48 AM, September 05, 2005
Yes---- look at the website of the
Destinations Bookstore owned by Smith.
You will see James the Cleaner listed as a sponsor in that list of sponsors.
Does the Mayor sponsor the beer brewery, too? They carry signs and support the Mayor on whatever he wants.
By Anonymous, at 9:52 AM, September 05, 2005
Yes---- look at the website of the
Destinations Bookstore owned by Smith.
You will see James the Cleaner listed as a sponsor in that list of sponsors.
Does the Mayor sponsor the beer brewery, too? They carry signs and support the Mayor on whatever he wants.
By Anonymous, at 9:53 AM, September 05, 2005
We need to start the business listing. It seems like the only alternative is to hit these business in their pocketbook...
www.destinationbooksellers.com
Sponsors
carmickles photography
Richo's Public House & Sports Time Pizza
Preston Arts Center
J.O. Endris Jewlers
James The Cleaner
EarthlyGoods.com
Isn't this an interesting list!
By Anonymous, at 11:04 AM, September 05, 2005
Anonymous
Yes! go to
www.destinationbooksellers.com
Check it out for yourself.
By Anonymous, at 11:09 AM, September 05, 2005
Yes, this is a good way for Concerned Citizens for Democracy can get our
voices heard in this City Mess.
By Anonymous, at 1:34 PM, September 05, 2005
This totally upsets me to see this "LIST." I went to this website and checked the list myself.. We should all start exposing these business. I totally support your new Citizens group. Enough is enough! I want my families voice heard also.
By Anonymous, at 2:01 PM, September 05, 2005
NEWS BULLETIN---------------
MAYOR JERRY ABRAMSON JUST ANNOUNCED THAT LOUISVILLE IS PREPARED TO ACCEPT 500 EVACUEES FROM THE HURRICANE TODAY.
THEY WILL HELP WITH FOOD, HOUSING AND NEEDS. SOME AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, SOME IN APARTMENTS AND SOME IN HOMES.
ISN'T IT SICKENING THAT OUR DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS, ANTHONY B. TORAN, IS
TAKING OFF FOR LOUISIANA TO RESCUE THE ANIMALS? OK---TONY---WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING?
TONY COULD TALK TO BOB LANE OF HOUSING AUTHORITY AND ARRANGE TO HOUSE PEOPLE IN THE APARTMENTS THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS EMPTY.
IT DOES'NT TAKE A GENIUS TO FIGURE THIS OUT. THIS IS TYPICAL OF OUR NEW ALBANY ADMINISTRATION TODAY.
I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL WE GET OUR
CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR DEMOCRACY UP AND RUNNING.
By Anonymous, at 2:02 PM, September 05, 2005
No wonder Randy Smith is always attacking certain Council Members.
Shame on all of you on this list.
This is how he get's his information for his Blog.
By Anonymous, at 2:07 PM, September 05, 2005
Don't you know why Anthony B. Toran is
leaving town? He and the Mayor's Board of Works are going to sign the contract to dump the Sanitation Dept.
If I did that to a bunch of hard working people, I would leave town,
too.
By Anonymous, at 2:14 PM, September 05, 2005
Tony Brown Toran needs to be out of town saving animals. How about humans and pets! Wonder if he gets paid for being off? Who's paying for his trip? The taxpayers of New Albany. Did he take his personal car or City car that the Taxpayers is paying for? It's grandstanding typical Garner/Toran style....Neither one gives a damn about sanitation employees getting fired. But they will save animals?
By Anonymous, at 2:22 PM, September 05, 2005
Citizens for Democracy, you guys are dumber than a bag of hammers.
What's more, you distort facts and blatantly lie if it suits you.
Your group will never have any credibility because you're ignorant and disorganized.
If you had any brains, which you don't, you'd research issues instead of circulating falsehoods.
By Anonymous, at 3:32 PM, September 05, 2005
You might want to brush up on your facts before you start impersonating people, also.
His name is spelled CARMICKLE.
Not CARMICHAEL.
By Anonymous, at 3:36 PM, September 05, 2005
Boycott Definition- The refusal to do business with a certain business or organization to express Disapproval or organization's practices.
By Anonymous, at 4:12 PM, September 05, 2005
Obviously, I was mistaken concerning the previous comments. I will do whatever I can to find out where that came from. In the meantime, all I can do is apologize to Rick for my mistake.
I am sorry.
I will be more careful in the future.
By East Ender, at 4:30 PM, September 05, 2005
Anonymous - east ender
The progressive placed that about Carmichael. This has happen before a month or so ago. so were dumb as
a bag of hammers. They again are trying to dstract us.
www.destinationbooksellers.com
WHOSE IGNORANT AND HAS NO CREDIBILITY?
Concern Citizens for Democracy is real. And we are going to make a stand. Regardless of what you think or what you all say.
We are focused, and organizing...So back your words up. We have the facts...
By Anonymous, at 6:37 PM, September 05, 2005
Not sure what the confusion seems to be about the sponsors for Destinations
Bookstore.
Simple answer: Go to
www.destinationbookseller.com and scroll down left side of screen and read the sponsors for yourself.
The Mayor, James, the Cleaner is listed as a sponsor.
By Anonymous, at 7:33 PM, September 05, 2005
BOYCOTT THOSE BUSINESS LISTED.
And we agree to not patronize James the cleaners. Or any other business that supports the Mayor.
We highly support Concerned Citizens for Democracy.
By Anonymous, at 8:59 PM, September 05, 2005
Our numbers are growing into a wealth of New Albany's population who have endured all they are going to take out of administrations that do not act on behalf of the people they were elected to represent.
I thank you all for showing your support, and soon we will show this administration just exactly what we think of their work.
By East Ender, at 9:54 PM, September 05, 2005
To The Citizens Of New Albany and
Concerned Citizens For Democracy:
It is time to face this Adminstration.
And to hold elected officials accountiable.
I am truly sick and tired of this corruption, and greed, lies and mismanagement of my tax dollars.
And our elected officials making decisions that benfit others and not me!
We have a Voice! And we need to demand to be heard!
(1) I suggest to each and everyone of you if you have a computer you email 5 people who is as sick and tired of these decisions being made on our behalf as taxpayers by Mayor Garner.
To attend this coming thursday's City Council meeting.
(2) If you really want to make a difference, and have a voice e-mail Laura and join Concern Citizens For Democracy.
(3) Talk to your neighbors and let them know what is really going on in this city.
(4) Contact your City Council Member. If you don't know how to reach them Some one on this blog will list phone numbers of City Council Members. We elected them to represent us. The people of New Albany.
(5) Bring a friend to Council Meeting this thursday.
We need to hold Mayor Garner accountiable for his mismangement of our Tax Dollars.
As well as for his wasteful spending. I don't know about the rest of you but I am sick and tired of paying for all these perks, that they seem to enjoy.
We all agree we will be getting hit with higher sewer bills and other fees. In the month's to come.
In my view I do not feel we can continue to let these problems go unnoticed without speaking out.
And if you love our Little Town like most of us do. And if we sit back and do nothing then "Shame On All Of Us."
I am only ONE VOICE but I truly feel my voice does matters. So if we truly want change we can all do it together.
And we all become a "True Voice" of Concerned Citizens For Democracy.
I am mad as "Hell" and we need to do something NOW!
We as Citizens and Taxpayers of New Albany do have "Rights" and our rights are being violated.
So our choices is this "Either We Stand Up Together" for what we Believe In.
Or we sit back and do nothing?
And don't ever let no one say to you that your voice doesn't matter. Because it does matter!
Concern Taxpayer
By Anonymous, at 8:55 AM, September 06, 2005
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS LIST
DISTRICT #
1 DAN COFFEY 949-1262
2 BILL SCHMIDT 945-7386
3 STEVE PRICE 941-9032
4 LARRY KOCHERT 945-7652
5 BEV CRUMP 948-2603
6 JEFF GAHAN 949-9314
AT LARGE
DON BLEVINS 944-4856
JACK MESSER 949-9638
MARK SEABROOK 944-9644
By Anonymous, at 9:38 AM, September 06, 2005
God Bless You! Concern Taxpayer
You seem to say what many people in New Albany are feeling right now.
Your voice and my voice does matter. You are a real inspiration.
By Anonymous, at 9:50 AM, September 06, 2005
T H A N K - Y O U
CONCERN TAXPAYER!!!!
By Anonymous, at 10:05 AM, September 06, 2005
Concern Taxpayer: Whether you be man or woman. You will never do anything in this world without courage. It is the greatest quality of the mind next to honor.
And what I just read took real Courage. Thank You for sharing your views.
By Anonymous, at 10:23 AM, September 06, 2005
Concern Taxpayer - You have such strong conviction! We need more people like you standing up for us taxpayers.
Thank You
By Anonymous, at 10:37 AM, September 06, 2005
Valla Ann Bolovschak could learn alot from Concern Taxpayer.
She only cares about her self and not the people let alone the Little People of New Albany.
At least Concern Taxpayer stands for something!
Thank You Concern Taxpayer
By Anonymous, at 11:13 AM, September 06, 2005
My guess is Steve Price (3rd).
Lucky you.
By Anonymous, at 2:49 PM, September 06, 2005
You totally get my attention everytime you post your comments on this Blog. You have a way of making people stop and say to themself. I feel the same damn way! You write with such honesty and true conviction. You truly give us all hope. You have stood up for the little people and have been attacked verbally. But you always stand up for what you believe in. And you never seem to ever back down. You encourage people to do what is right. Thanks for inspiring many of us.
You have guts and courage, and real passion in what you write.
By Anonymous, at 9:58 PM, September 06, 2005
You need to be the President of Concerned Citizens for Democracy..
Great job concern taxpayer.
By One voice, at 10:06 PM, September 06, 2005
That would be a conflict of interest---CFD and city council (but not if it his wife)
BTW---democracy--demos--the masses
kratos- power
By Anonymous, at 11:21 AM, September 07, 2005
Why are we copying the progressives name?
They're CFP, now we want to be CFD.
That's going to confuse a lot of people, isn't it?
By Anonymous, at 12:35 PM, September 07, 2005
Our name will not be the same as CFP. We will be CCD.
Concern Taxpayer -
You have the ability to say what everyone is feeling, as all have written.
Would you like to speak at Thursday's Council meeting?
I will e-mail you personally.
We must make sure we have a large number of supporters there because I am sure the P's will be armed and ready to attack.
As Concern Taxpayer said, everybody bring a friend or 3, and tell everyone you can.
We must show a force of numbers.
By East Ender, at 2:24 PM, September 07, 2005
I totally support Concern Taxpayer Comments. And I feel Concern Taxpayer would represent us all well on behalf of: "Concerned Citizens For Democracy."
Concern Taxpayer is very motivating and shows alot of determination. And shows strength in beliefs and conviction.
Thank You C/T and keep standing for what you believe in!
By Anonymous, at 11:55 PM, September 07, 2005
Play nice children!
Or I will have to give you a time out!
By Anonymous, at 7:14 AM, September 08, 2005
NEWS FLASH--
Concern Taxpayer to speak at this evenings City Council Meeting!
Let the fireworks begin!!!!!
By Anonymous, at 9:50 AM, September 08, 2005
What a great victory for the little people of New Albany. They were out in force. Laura you done a great job! We are all United. It's time to make things happen. We Support Concern Citizens for Democracy...
By Anonymous, at 11:40 PM, September 08, 2005
Dana,
I would like to thank you for posting some reasonable thoughts. I have tried my best to keep this blog on the topics and away from the petty nonsense that sometimes finds its way here.
Unfortunately, my policy to allow anonymous commentors, for those who have information but are in a position where they cannot speak under their own names (curse of a small town), has opened the door for others who cannot behave like adults and engage in useful discourse.
I try to police it the best I can, but sometimes things get by me, and sometimes people are just inciting hostility to discredit this blog.
Please hang in there with those of us who truly want what is best for the city, and progress in a well thought out and planned manner.
Your opinions and thoughts are welcomed here, and you can e-mail me personally any time.
By East Ender, at 1:23 AM, September 09, 2005
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