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Monday, August 08, 2005

Proposed Sanitation Contract Possibly Illegal

I want to encourage everyone to try to attend the Tuesday evening meeting (5:30PM) of the council to address concerns regarding the proposed sanitation privatization.
As reported in the August 5th Courier Journal, the process mandated by law for soliciting competitive bids was not adheared to, and therefore any action by Mayor Garner to sign a sanitation contract under these conditions will likely bring lawsuits from other eligible companies.
Documents regarding this matter explain that the purpose of mandating procedures for bid solicitation are in place in order to prevent "back room dealing" which deprives the citizenry of assurances that the best possible deal had been made on their behalf.
The contention is that New Albany solicited bids for DISPOSAL only, and did not indicate a request for bids concerning COLLECTION. Thus, only one service, Industrial Disposal, submitted a bid for both services while other companies submitted bids only for disposal.
Indeed, the RFP (request for proposal) was issued back in early April of this year for a three year contract for disposal of solid waste. Yet, the contract Garner is awarding to Industrial Disposal is outside the scope of the RFP in that it includes both collection and disposal of solid waste, not for a 3 year term, but for an eight year period contract.
The city did not comply with mandated bidding processes, and therefore the proposed contract with ID can likely be considered illegal, unbinding, and unenforceable.
This is an important decision that concerns everyone within the city limits of New Albany. This is also another blatant example of corruption within the system of City politics and services.
This is the time to show up, in force, and insist that we are not going to tolerate such underhanded tactics from those who were elected to protect the best interest of the public.

53 Comments:

  • If the bid process was wrong and must be done again to give other companies a chance, doesn't this mean that we are accepting privatization?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:36 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • TO EAST ENDER--- In a letter to Honorable James Garner dated: July 29th,2005
    RUMPKE Waste Collection & Disposal System. Has stated:
    The citizens of New Albany would be deprived of the assurance that their government had obtained the best deal possible on their behalf, and we also believe that such a contract is highly likely to be illegal and unenforceable.
    This letter also goes on to say:
    The City of New Albany issued a Request for Proposals for Dispossal of Solid Waste dated April 5,2005 By its clear terms, that proposal was for Disposal of solid waste only, and did not include collection service. Basically from what I have read. The Mayor has chosen the other vendor Indudtrial Disposal for the collection and disposal of solid waste within the City. And the Mayor more than likely in violation Bidding process mandated by IC 36-1-12-2.
    Also in this letter it is stated:
    It is the very purpose of the competive bidding process to avoid "back room dealing" and to allow citizens to be assured that their governmental entities have secured the best possible terms in deals made on their behalf.

    In my opinion: As a Taxpayer. The citizens of New Albany should be totally outraged. It does appear to me this Administration is not looking out for our best Interest.

    I encourage everyone to contact their Councilman or Councilwomen and inquire where they stand on a full investigation of this matter.

    I feel in order to take our "Town Back" we The Little People of New Albany will have to make a strong stand. We all our going to have to stand up and ask the hard questions. And keep asking until we get the truth. This Adminstration needs to be held accountiable for their decision and their actions. Our "VOICES" need to be heard.

    By Blogger One voice, at 7:46 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • The 2006 Budget (Mayor has submitted) is giving City Employees a 2.5% Raise. But were going to lay off sanitation workers.
    Does this make sense Laura?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:55 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • my question east ender--
    I would like to know why the Head of The Parks Dept.
    For the month of July-Why he has a $1,000.00 cell phone bill?
    These so called nickle and dime "Bitchin" were doing adds up to thousands of dollars wasted with all of our tax dollars! And this is only one Department? Why are we allowing our Tax Dollars to be wasted. Doesn't this make other people mad too.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:08 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • How could the Mayor in good conscience
    give himself and Tony Toran a salary increase as he is in the process of causing the Sanitation Workers to lose their jobs and their seniority with their jobs?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:08 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • 2.5% Raise for Tony Toran = $1,000.00. Look at all the food that could buy for the unemployed Sanitation workers family?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:14 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • SALARY INCREASES ARE A JOKE.

    DO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT THE
    MAYOR PROPOSES TO GIVE HIS STAFF A
    2 1/2 PERCENT SALARY INCREASE?

    LOOK ON STATE STREET IN "DOWNTOWN"
    NEW ALBANY AT THE JUNK YARD THAT
    HAS MOVED INTO DOWNTOWN FROM FLOYD KNOBS.

    I READ IN PAPER THAT THE TRUCKS ARE NOT IN LEGAL REPAIR.

    TRUCK DRIVER WAS KILLED. FAULTY BRAKES, LICENSE PLATE EXPIRED.

    N.A. BUILDING COMMISSIONER, WHERE ARE YOU?

    POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHERE ARE YOU?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:25 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • east ender: Are you AWARE? Tony Toran also makes an Additional $1,200.00 sitting on The Flood Control Board.

    FLOOD CONTROL BOARD

    Board Members
    Sally Mastrolis $ 8,750.00
    Shane Gibson $ 1,200.00
    Earl Cory $ 1,200.00
    Ronnie Toran $ 1,000.00
    Tony Toran $ 1,200.00
    Steve LaDuke $ 1,000.00
    Tom Canon $ 1,000.00


    Does some of these name look familiar Laura? But the whole point I am trying to make. If you work for this City. And you can be put on a few Boards look at all the money you can make in a 4 year period. And some of these people our making Major Decisions for us the Taxpayers!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:37 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • And people wonder why many of us write under Anonymous. We have lot's of Information to put out to the Taxpayers of New Albany.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:39 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • The Assistant Mayor Position of Toran was the position that the Mayor promised he would not fill when he spoke in his election campaign.

    Now, we have Assistant Mayor, Toran with salary increase for 2006, a "take home car" , cell phone costs, health insurance cost, retirement benefits. He is also being paid for his seat on another Board. What other perks are there that we do not know?

    OH- YES- LET'S DUMP THE SANITATION WORKERS SO THAT WE CAN PAY THE EXPENSES LISTED ABOVE.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:39 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • east ender-- Are you AWARE Laura that Rick Carmichael is being paid to take Pictures for the New Albany Parks Dept. He is now on the James Garner Payroll. So what do you now think of the Progressive Group. And why were they "screaming so loud" for Scribner Place! And you ask them about their Agenda's?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:50 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • Valla Ann warned all of us. And the Council and alot of you turned a BLIND EYE.. Shame on all of us!
    Now do you believe her?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:58 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • Man-- that is PROGRESSIVE, give Tony Toran a $1,000 raise and dump the Sanitation workers.

    The Mayor is giving himself a raise too. Does anyone know what the Mayor's raise will be?


    PROGRESSIVES--- I sure have to give you all a big pat on the back.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:02 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • If anyone has the complete list of salaries for certain city appointees, please post it. For example, we now know Tony Toran is paid for his assistant mayor job & flood control. Does he get paid for Board of Public Works also?

    Tony Toran annual salary
    Assistant Mayor job--$?????
    Flood control position--$1,200
    Board of Public Works--$?????
    Cost of health insurance--?????
    Annual cell phone fee--?????
    Cost of city-provided vehicle--?????
    Cost of gas paid for by city--????
    Anything else?

    If this could be posted for everyone on multiple boards it would be helpful.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:04 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • Chief Of Police lives in Washington County. He also has a take home car. So Taxpayers of New Albany how much money do we spend each week, each month, for a year in gas for him? This is Our Tax Dollars being wasted? I'D say we are spending around $70.00 week if not more!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:06 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • LAURA

    Ask the Mayor how much he spent to re-decorate his new office? When he was elected?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:11 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • The take home cars are definitely a problem. Police & Fire are 80% of budget. No one with authority to do so will do away with take home cars. Too intimidated by police & fire union.

    This is the responsibility of both Mayor and Council. If Mayor was concerned about saving $$$ he would do away with take home cars going out of Floyd Co. But he needs that union vote.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:11 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • 3 CHEERS FOR THE LITTLE PEOPLE OF NEW ALBANY!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:13 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • That's one cheer each. Now that's fair!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:27 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • Who keeps track of city credit cards and what is charged to them? Is this public record? Would be enlightening to see where credit cards are being used.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:29 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • I read that whole darn Courier-Journal article and couldn't find the part where it said the legally mandated bid process wasn't adhered to.

    Can you show me where it's at?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:30 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • Hasn't there been a lot complaints about corruption in the sanitation department?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:32 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • Please HOMER, don't be sarcastic.

    Remember-- When the Mayor places the $3.00 Stormwater fee in addition to the Garbage collection increase coming down the pike, and the property tax increases to pay for the salary raises for the Mayor's staff, you are going to be crying right along with the Little People.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:32 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • Funny. The Mayor is Mr. Harry Truman the buck stops here when privitizing sanitation.

    But when it comes to enforcement of city ordinances, it's all someone else's fault. He can't get a thing done.

    Odd.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:36 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • I thought we the people was being sarcastic.

    Hasn't everybody been crying for the Mayor to cut costs? And help clean alleys and abandoned houses?

    Didn't evrybody say that the city's broke? But now you want to give the sanitation workers 900 thousand?

    What about saying the sewer needed its money back to fix all its problems.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:38 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • True, he can't gat a thing done when Dan Coffey, Bill Schmidt, Steve Price and Larry Kochert stonewall the process and refuse to appoint an enforcement officer.

    Why don't you ask them?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:39 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • It is odd that everybody says New Albany government has been corrupt for decades and then turn around point out the only people Coffey, Schmidt, Kochert who've had authority to change things for decades as good people. Doesn't make any sense.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:43 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • Why doesn't Hizzoner ask the police force (whose chief he appoints) and building commissioner (who he appoints) to get off their duffs and enforce ordinances?

    Or do you just want to pay a salary for yet another person who'll give excuses why it's not his job?

    Besides, big deal on the OEO's actual job. Grass, trash (which is already the responsibility of health dept & bldg. comm.) and junk cars (police department responsibility). What about all the buildings that are falling down?

    Grass can be cut. Cars and trash can be removed. Once buildings fall apart from lack of ordinance enforcement, that's it.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:53 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • True, I've never heard them take responsibility for all the bad things that have happened.

    Meanwhile, Garner gave them all the political cover they needed by saying it was his decision. It confused them, probably, because all they had to do was rake in the gravy from the angry populace.

    Crazy, isn't it? Crazy like a fox?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:54 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • QUESTION------------------------

    Does the Mayor provide Take Home Cars and City paid cell phones for the
    Council members ?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:35 AM, August 08, 2005  

  • Funny you people, FED UP TAXPAYER, want to bitch and point fingers, but you keep voting the same people in office election after election.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:05 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • QUESTION------

    Have you voted to provide cell phones for city council members?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:57 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • Answer to question on Council Cell phones---------------------------

    The only Council Members who have take home cars and cell phones provided by the city are:

    Councilman Jack Messer of Police Dept.
    Councilman Don Blevins of Sanitation.
    They are on City Payroll.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:11 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • Why should we provide police take home cars for officers that live outside the city limits---not floyd county---the argument for take home cars is that they deter crime----the county has a police force. Why should city officers get to take car home to the county? There are over sixty take home cars ---but no more than ten are on duty at any given time---How about this---they could drive their own car to work like evryone else--- and then use the police cars---we could cut the number of cars from 63--down to about 20-25 easily and save a lot of gas and upkeep---Police and fire account for 78% of the budget--per capita--the taxpayers in new albany pay the most in the state for police protection. I do not want the lowest paid----but they have so much political power they get what they want.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:52 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • Is there an alternative to this power of which you speak?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:51 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • Police payroll in New Albany.

    A recent payroll report showed the amount listed for City Police Officer
    ______________________________________
    Assistant Chief, Mike Mills,
    Police pay, $ 74,376.
    Police Merit Board $ 4,800

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:20 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • Better face up to it, the councilmen you love so much are part of this problem.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:09 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • Anonymous

    We keep voting the same people in? Bev Crump, Jack Messer, Donnie Blevins, Jeff Gayhan, I think you got your facts wrong again!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:28 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • So who is the good Councilman and the bad ones?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:31 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • SANITATION FINANCIAL REPORT

    YEAR ITEM AMOUNT PAID
    -----------------------------------
    2003 GARBAGE CONTAINERS $ 121,000
    2004 GARBAGE CONTAINERS $ 113,525
    2005 GARBAGE CONTAINERS $ 56,500

    TOTAL PAID TO DATE.....$ 291,025

    -----------------------------------

    PAYMENTS OT BE MADE:

    2005 GARBAGE CONTAINERS $56,500
    2006 YEAR CONTAINERS $121,000
    2007 YEAR CONTAINERS $121,000

    TOTAL TO BE PAID...... $298,500
    -----------------------------------
    AMOUNT PAID--------- $291,025
    AMOUNT TO BE PAID--- $298,500
    TOTAL COST OF CANS-- $589,500

    Rember Regina announced I will use Ceasars money for the trash cans? Look at the money being wasted. So when sanitation is privatized we going back to the old ones. Are continue to waste taxpayers $$$$$$$$

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:54 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • Seems to me The Little People are on a roll! Looks like they been doing their Homework.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:58 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • Laura talk about being "INFORMED."
    What you think about these articles. And the dollar Amounts! Wait tell you see the 2006 Budget? It would scare you all..

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:03 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • What is scary about a budget? A budget "is." It's not scary. What are you afraid of? Somebody (else) getting paid and the city running well? How is it a conspiracy if it's published, vetted by the state, open for public inspection, and includes open hearings? Sounds like you elected these guys to do just this. Oh, I forgot. You all were losing candidates. Never mind. Oh, the sanitation RFP? It invited alternate bids, so you don't get to ride your little "scandal" anymore. Guess Laura will have to come up with another conspiracy. You could have just asked, but isn't it more fun to wrap your legs around rumors and get your jollies that way???

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:26 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • if you only had a brain!
    Must be one of them Progressive boys?
    Nah gotta be those Progressive Beer boys. Yeah ya don't have a brain...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:30 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • CONCERNED TAXPAYER has a good point.
    If the cans were supposed to be paid out of Riverboat funds and instead, they were paid out of Sanitation funds, then, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the Riverboat Fund should refund the amount of the can payments to the Sanitation Fund.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:59 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • Except that the riverboat money is being spent on something else and if you gave it to sanitation, you'd have to find money to replace it.

    It also doesn't solve the problem of sanitation losing money every year.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:23 PM, August 08, 2005  

  • Let's see what Council does on R-05-23 Resolution. 5 Councilman votes will get us the Investigation Bidding Process-And the proposed contract between the City of New Albany-Industrial Disposal. Meeting Aug,9- 5:30 PM..In a very small conference room. (I hear the room only seats about 10 people?) Doesn't the citizens of New Albany deserve better treatment than being forced to stand in the hall? On such an important meeting.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:26 AM, August 09, 2005  

  • Why in the world is Council President
    Jeff Gahan holding the Council meeting
    in a small room across the hall from the regular Council Room ?

    Council meetings are PUBLIC MEETINGS.

    Meeting at 5:30 PM on Tuesday to review resolution on Sanitation bid
    problems.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:58 AM, August 09, 2005  

  • NO WE ARE NOT ACCEPTING PRIVATIZATION! And their is a better solution for Sanitation. If this Adminstration would stop dipping into each department. Just maybe we could see where the money is going? My solution for the problems of New Albany is do an audit. See what we actually have in each account. And stop committing money and shuffling money from one account to another.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:07 AM, August 09, 2005  

  • You are so right. Just think what a funny cartoon it would make to show all of the public officials and employees who are dipping their hands in so many pots.

    We would see hands dipping in so many pots that it would make a real cartoon.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:15 AM, August 09, 2005  

  • little people said,

    if you only had a brain! Must be one of them Progressive boys? Nah gotta be those Progressive Beer boys. Yeah ya don't have a brain...

    Here is another violation of Laura's ordinance against attacks -- wait, I forgot, Price and Schmidt and those guys voted against ordinance enforcement.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:06 AM, August 09, 2005  

  • Don't worry, she's wandered away from her desk for a few days.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:15 AM, August 09, 2005  

  • Wandered away???
    Thanks a lot you insensitive jerk. I'm never gone for long, but I do have other things that require my attention and time.
    Regarding Sanitation Department:
    According to the annual reports, the Sanitation Department was in the black for years 1994 to 1998 with the exception of 1997. That's 4 years in the black with 1997 only short by about $1600 dollars.
    In 1999, the department suddenly reflected a deficit of almost $200K. Then $300K in 2000, and by 2002 it was in the red by more than $400K.
    That doubled in 2003 to $890K, and by 2004 Sanitation was over $900K in the red.
    There is $798K still due on trucks and cans. $166.5K for trucks this fall pays off the lease, and the cans still need $298.5K to pay them off between now and 2007.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 4:07 PM, August 11, 2005  

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