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Saturday, October 07, 2006

Report From the New Albany Potty Police

We want to extend a huge THANK YOU to the New Albany Potty Police (NAPP)for being the pro-active citizen advocates they are, Thank you for giving so much of your time and energy, and for being so diligent in your quest for truth and answers.
At the end of this article, folks will find contact information for the EPA official who is overseeing New Albany's problems and handling submitted reports.
If you live in one of the areas that have experiened repeated sewage overflows for years upon years, we think you might appreciate having this information.

New Albany Potty Police Member said...
Speaking of when it rain, it pours...we have some of the stats in from our September 22nd & September 23rd rainfall and how well our Sewers worked.

The City reports 18 sewer system overflows (though the State reports 19), and maintain they did not bypass. The City is declaring this a 42 hour rain even with a total of 6.23".

The City is also maintaining there were no SSO's on the 22nd; we would beg to disagree. The City maintains the overflows did not happen until 9:51 am on the 23rd.

The City maintains Joe Kraft Park didn't have any SSO's. The Engineer questioned how that could be, seeing it was under water by 11:00 pm on the 22nd? "Well, we walked back in there and didn't see any residue." The Engineer was sure any such residue would have washed away.

The other locations were 3 at the Robert E. Lee; 3 on Cherry Valley (underwater by 11:00 pm the 22nd); Linda Drive Area in mini-basin 18. Basin 16 was overwhelmed, which would be the Korb and Sanderson area. Basin 12, which we are assuming would be Cummins and the Lewis Street areas; the Meiers and the I-265 areas; and Arnie's (that's how they refer to the manhole out in the middle of the street). We could have sworn they said they fixed Arnie's, though.

The Old Ford area, where again, not a lot of specifics, but mentioned how a 12 inch line ran into a 6 inch line which ran into a 8 inch line which ran into a 15 inch line which then runs into a 10 inch line. Whew, doggies. Sure hope we got all of that one right.

Up in Silver Hills and the people down on Corydon Pike -- there was totally black sewage running down towards Corydon Pike from between 1705 and 1707 Woodland Rd up behind you. They are maintaining a line completely broke.

Another issue we have with the "reporting" going on is the "guesstimation" there was only 32,520 GPD leaking out during this time frame. State records.

Also, at E 6th and Elm, sewer board says it a storm drain -- is it?

The Engineers weren't buying the Clark-Deitz's "engineering study" done so more houses could be built out the Green Valley/Daisy Lane area. Mr. Fifer (you could hardly hear him) actually admitted he might have a conflict of interest with this subject. Anyways, it was ordered sent to the EPA for their scrutiny. Thank you Mr. Solomon and Mr. Utz.

The missing EDIT monies we were after last YEAR was brought to the floor by the Engineers, this time -- not us. The Mayor told them to go get it from the Council. The Sewer Board misspent the monies and now they want more? Help.

You know there has to be a lot more, but we are tired so to all a goodnight. Thanks for the space, EastEnder.

12:37 AM, October 05, 2006

EPA Associate Regional Council - Erik Olsen 318-886-6829
(Pictures are welcomed) 77 West Jackson Road
Chicago, IL 60604

posted by East Ender at 1:00 AM

75 Comments:

  • shirley said...
    There was an article in yesterday's Tribune which may have been missed by many people.

    A dear friend of our family, Eddie Bottoms was injured Monday from a fall. He was about 35 feet up along with his son, Josh. He suffered a fractured skull, pelvis and arm. He also has bleeding behind his right eye and we do not know yet if he will lose his sight in that eye.

    Eddie works in heating and air and was installing duct work on a building in Louisville.

    He landed on a concrete floor on top of a pile of metal studs. The doctors said it was a miracle that he survived. He is still in ICU at University Hospital but he is making progress. His wife, Cathy has been staying at the hospital all week to be near him.

    Cathy is unable to work due to a disease in her spine so he is the sole provider. Yes, Worker's comp will kick in eventually but they need immediate help.

    Eddie and Cathy are always helping others. They are the "go to" couple when a person needs a place to stay for the night or a young person needs a hot meal and an ear to listen to them. They have a small home in the west end and it is never empty.

    Since Eddie is a heating and air expert he frequently does "side jobs" for free, just charging for the materials. He has purchased used furnaces and air conditioning equipment and installed them for free to people who could not afford these otherwise.

    We are planning a fund raiser soon in the form of a Karaoke and dance, site undetermined at this point.

    If anyone can help these wonderful people please contace the Obelisk Credit Union 944-1325.

    Thank you.

    Laura, thank you for the space.

    7:00 AM, October 06, 2006

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:12 AM, October 07, 2006  

  • Shirley,
    Our thoughts and prayers are with your friend and his family.
    Feel free to bring any further information for posting here.
    We hope he makes a full recovery.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 1:13 AM, October 07, 2006  

  • Update on Eddie Bottoms: we went to see him yesterday. He is sitting up, the feeding tube has been removed and he is eating solid food.

    He may be moved to Transitional Care in the next day or two.

    Thank you Laura and everyone for your concern and prayers.

    Shirley

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:17 AM, October 09, 2006  

  • NAPP: I called you and told you there were several people observing D&H Environmental and Estes Septic Cos. emptying a manhole located at Highwater Road and Corydon Pike.

    You all called and told me the EMC's rep, Brian Dixon, told you they were emptying the manhole there because one of Georgetown's pump stations wasn't working.

    Even though that didn't make sense to you all or me how the sewage made it all the way to that particular manhole without the need of a pump, now I'm reading in the paper about Georgetown and a plant or pump station being messed up or "vandalized". There is a pump station on up Corydon Pike where the RR bridge is and they have been emptying that sewage too and bringing it to us.

    I still say we would not be emptying sewage out of the manhole and bringing it in to the plant by those two companyies (big trucks) with out the blockage being between us and Highwater Road. Really none of it makes sense.

    If you hear anything or find out more let me know.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:10 PM, October 09, 2006  

  • Well, I always said that if mayor Garner ever was able to muster up one good decision I would certainly give him credit for it.
    Amazingly, it has finally happened.
    The decision to cut one ambulance from the city fire department and utilize an outside source, Yellow ambulance, is a good decision.
    Yep, I said it. The guy finally managed to show some good sense.
    There are going to be several benefits from this move.
    First, the Yellow ambulance service will actually take patients to Louisville Hospitals, which the city ambulances would not do. This is a huge benefit.
    Second, the cost of running the ambulance with fire department personnel was enormous, to the tune of $600K last year.
    These specially trained firefighters earn overtime pay every time they make an ambulane run. On top of a salary of $41K+, overtime is a ridiculous amount of money, and other city resources were being tapped as well.
    About a month ago a neighbor of mine called for an ambulance and everybody showed up. A firetruck, the rescue fire truck, a police officer and the ambulane.
    With about 8-9 men running through her house to take her 93 year old husband to the hospital, she felt very overwhelmed.
    Third, the level of training and medical knowledge of the Yellow ambulance personnel is more extensive than what firefighters recieve. I know I would feel much more comfortable with that service treating me or my family than I would with a cross-trained firefighter.
    All in all, this is a good decision, and I must give credit where creit is due. Garner gets a thumbs up from me on this one.
    Now that we know he is capable of making good decisions, we can't wait until we can say it again.
    Think he might have another one, or two, or three, up his sleeve?
    We won't be holding our breaths, but we'll sure be hoping.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 2:28 AM, October 12, 2006  

  • For what little it is worth, you have earned a bit of respect from me. You could have just privately agreed and not bothered to comment publicly.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 12:26 PM, October 12, 2006  

  • Let's see, eight comments in ten day perhaps this blog has followed several others to a slow natural death. No interest, no comments. It is so hard to keep New Albany's attention, isn't it?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:28 PM, October 16, 2006  

  • It's been slow everywhere in the local blogosphere. My guess? Election season. People go back to their tribal loyalties, and EE said that she wasn't interested in politics being discussed here.

    I'm not sure it means anything, except that the crowded field was bound to be narrowed at some point in time.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 9:59 PM, October 16, 2006  

  • Yes, Blogtastic, we agree. But there was mis-information given out to the Council. These monies were/still are missing and they are tied to the Consent Decree and the inner-city Sewer Maintenance Fund.

    The two Engineers needed the money and Garner told them to go to Council. This is something we brought to the Sewer Board last year and only now are the Engineers recognizing the monies are missing that were required to fix our inner-city sewers.

    These were Council edicts that were violated. Appendix D (the inner-city sewer maintenance five year plan) has more blood on it than the actual "Plan". A simple five year maintenance plan and they just couldn't do it.

    We feel it will be brought back to the Council and it will pass, once they are told it is connected to the Consent Decree as Appendix D. One sewer board member has already called Mr. Seabrook, and others and all admitted they were not aware of the "circumstances" surrounding this issue.

    We don't know why Mr. Fifer said that money wasn't needed. Not after him hearing Mr. Solomon and Mr. Utz stating how badly it is needed to meet our requirements.

    It's really hard to keep this all straight; but they really do HAVE TO pay this money back for the inner-city maintenance EMC was to have been doing.

    But, we agree...long agreed; enough is enough -- but this is another issue plaguing this City because of the mess with the books.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:39 PM, October 20, 2006  

  • Here's a good link for some:

    www.truemajorityaction.org.oreos

    Interesting, hey?

    By Blogger A Democrat in Floyd County, at 1:49 PM, October 22, 2006  

  • That's a great site!
    Copy and paste the link or just click HERE to go directly to it.
    Really, you ought to check this out.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 12:01 AM, October 23, 2006  

  • this blog is sooo dead. time to bury it EE.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:12 AM, October 28, 2006  

  • Worry about your own...it's called myob.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:08 AM, October 28, 2006  

  • Talk about Tim Deatrick, lord god of stormwater, that'll wake it up!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:58 AM, October 28, 2006  

  • Heellllooo New Albany: For the past several years that has been much discussion about the mayor and other demoncrats in general, well now is the time to step up to the plate and attempt to convince the rest of us about the problems with the party. Buuutt, NOTHING, SILENCE.

    This must be another symptom of the New Albany Syndrome. Complain, Complain, Complain, but when it is time to step up, they HIDE like a bunch of jerks.

    Oh you may say, this is not a political blog, but you sure have had no problem dogging on the democrats who are now in office. I do not think you believe the thing you write.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:32 AM, October 30, 2006  

  • Candidate Baron Hill spotted at local business Admiral Bicknell Inn 600 E. Main St. this past weekend.

    Wonder where Mayor Garner has been hiding?

    Rumor is they want to keep there distance from Mayor James Garner.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:05 PM, October 30, 2006  

  • That was the buzz on Main Street this weekend.

    Vote "Baron Hill."

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:12 PM, October 30, 2006  

  • Shirley, would like to have an update on Eddie Bottoms. Is he still hospitalized? Is he doing okay? Thanks for the update. Concerned

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:02 PM, October 30, 2006  

  • Yep, buzz on Main Street was all about Baron Hill. But, I can't imagine one of Sodrel's biggest admirers had Baron in as a guest, and if so, Sodrel might enjoy knowing that as a fact, not rumour.

    Go about six houses down from your original location; guarantee the red carpet was out for Baron and Evan and Birch.

    Go Baron.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:43 AM, October 31, 2006  

  • To this illustrious anonymous poster:

    "Heellllooo New Albany: For the past several years that has been much discussion about the mayor and other demoncrats in general, well now is the time to step up to the plate and attempt to convince the rest of us about the problems with the party. Buuutt, NOTHING, SILENCE.

    This must be another symptom of the New Albany Syndrome. Complain, Complain, Complain, but when it is time to step up, they HIDE like a bunch of jerks.

    I only have one thing to say -- why DON'T YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Complained for YEARS about "the Mayor and other Democrats." This blog hasn't been in existence for "years".

    Oh you may say, this is not a political blog, but you sure have had no problem dogging on the democrats who are now in office. I do not think you believe the thing you write.

    6:32 AM, October 30, 2006

    And the way you wrote your posting is so incorrect grammatically. Gee, wonder who that could be? You are extremely transparent, in your writing and your viciousness and your use of words.

    I think your blog may need you; sort of like the village is missing it's local idiot.

    You definitely sound like the whiner and complainer you are grumbling over. Why bring it here; sleep bad? We won't hold it against you, though. Have a better day today. :)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:50 AM, October 31, 2006  

  • To Anon 7:02PM

    Eddie is home from the hospital. He is doing much better.

    He still cannot walk but a few steps and has short term memory loss but under the circumstances that is the best we can hope for.

    He goes to therapy every other day and is making steady progress. His right arm is still in a cast to keep it totally immobile but he is getting pretty good with his left hand. He even sat in his wheelchair and flipped burgers on his grill last Sunday.

    Thanks for asking.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:20 AM, October 31, 2006  

  • Idle curiosity, but while walking Sunday, I noticed the crop of GOP signs at the Bicknell had been moved from the yard. My presumption was that the grass was being mowed.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 8:38 AM, October 31, 2006  

  • God help Baron Hill when new albanian tries to tell him how to win his election. But of course @ Richo's when Baron see's all the Nazi propaganda he might want to run the other way.

    Have a good discussion on the issue seperation of church & state, maybe he can convert the atheist EDITOR/NAC.

    For all

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:07 PM, October 31, 2006  

  • It's good to know I still have a fan club.

    BTW, it's Commie stuff, not Nazi.

    Another little person who couldn't see over the top of the book in history class?

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 6:15 PM, October 31, 2006  

  • What a bunch of crap roger is putting out on his blog. Baron Hill is scheduled for a rally in Jasper tomorrow at 7pm. Think he will really be at richo's?

    Just another quest to have his ego fed.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:21 PM, October 31, 2006  

  • A quick check of Baron Hill's web site shows his rally is scheduled in Jasper at 5:30 pm, not 7 pm.

    What a bunch of crap you're putting out stating incorrect info.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:45 AM, November 01, 2006  

  • I received an email from Baron Hill's campaign that a debate would follow the rally. This is all to take place in Jasper.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:17 AM, November 01, 2006  

  • I also received an email about the rally and the debate. The rally is at 5:30PM and the debate is at 7:00PM at the Jasper Center Auditorium.

    This email was dated 10/31/06.

    I am a big Baron supporter but even I don't think he can be in two places at one time.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:37 AM, November 01, 2006  

  • I am no Roger fan but I think the debate in Jasper is tonight - Wednesday. The deal at richo's is Thursday.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:48 PM, November 01, 2006  

  • From Baron Hill's site:

    SEYMOUR—Baron Hill today agreed to participate in a November 1 debate sponsored by Vincennes University Jasper Campus. Panelists, comprised of three members of the local media, and members of the audience will submit questions to the candidates in a 90-minute debate.

    November 1 is TODAY. Richo's event is tomorrow, THURSDAY.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:44 PM, November 01, 2006  

  • Comprehension is optional for many.
    They would rather deal in untruthful facts and unfounded rumors. Much easier to make your points that way.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 5:28 PM, November 01, 2006  

  • I've relayed the information given me by Drinking LIberally, the group that meets each Thursday at the pub.

    I'd be the first to admit (and laughing) that Baron Hill neither wants nor needs my endorsement. No one in political circles wants to have anything to do with me ... and that's how I know I'm close to the mark.

    Truth be told, I've only attended a DL meeting perhaps twice in the year, so it will be fun. They say he'll be there, and I hope he makes it.

    And, yes, the Jasper debate's tonight (Wed.), not tomorrow (Thur.)

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 6:21 PM, November 01, 2006  

  • "Just another quest to have his ego fed."

    Sorry to disappoint, but Baron Hill did attend the DL function last night, and the people seemed to appreciate him taking the time to do so. He was friendly and seemed to relate quite well. His visit was brief, but valued.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 11:10 PM, November 03, 2006  

  • Wow, almost a month with no posts and 10 days since a comment. Lookin bellyup to me.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:49 PM, November 13, 2006  

  • Curosity killed the cat!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:16 PM, November 13, 2006  

  • Well lets see, first it was Volunteer Hoosier who was "bought out" by NA Confidential; however, we hardly hear from Mr. Smith in recent months. Then it was Diggin in the Dirt, closed down, changed her mind to only log things of interest and no opinions; and now it is Speak Out Loud NA. What is the common denominator here? I hope this blog does not go the way of some others, I enjoy this blog and I think they do a good service. I also miss VH and Diggin. Come back, come back we miss you. A fan

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:44 PM, November 14, 2006  

  • It is concerning that this blog has been extemely quiet over the past month. I hope there has been no threats to the owner of this blog! If there have been threats, I hope she has the courage to be a stand up person anyway. Don't let the bastards get you down. Also, I hope all is well with EE. I hate bullies, don't you?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:34 AM, November 15, 2006  

  • WTF are you talking about?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:46 AM, November 15, 2006  

  • The threat came from the grassy knoll, right?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:33 AM, November 15, 2006  

  • To 9:46 am and 11:33 am - Do you really think threats have not and could not happen on this blog. Well think again, it has happened on THIS blog. Now admit you do not know everything.

    I hope EE hangs tight and does not give in either to a buy out or threats. A fan

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:52 PM, November 15, 2006  

  • I heard the threats are coming from FOS because EE has restricted FOS comments.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:34 AM, November 16, 2006  

  • Whoa -- wouldn't that be a scream, but I fear it's too good to be true.

    Are the threats being made by Dork or Mindy?

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 8:47 AM, November 16, 2006  

  • 9:52,
    Just exactly what would there be to buy out? Anyone can start a blog for FREE. Threats? Paranoia runs rampant with some people.

    Like many others, I have noticed the extreme lack of activity on this blog the last few months. My first thought was that maybe there is a health issue. I certainly hope that is not the case.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 2:40 PM, November 16, 2006  

  • Iamhoosier: You said: "Just exactly what would there be to buy out." Well you may want to ask your friend Roger that question. If you will return to the Volunteer Hoosier blogsite, an undated comment from all4word between March 20 and March 22, 2006, (Merger talks hits snag), Randy stated there was six figures involved and mentioned several other times regarding money. "Our counselors will settle this, but with six figures involved, I am not going to get hung up over terminology"

    After you finish read his archived comments, perhaps a buy out is not so far fetched! By the way, where is all4word?

    You may not have been on the blog scene when Volunteer Hoosier had his own blog!

    I guess we will just have to wait to see what happens to this blogsite.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:58 PM, November 16, 2006  

  • What a crock.

    Let's say I have a blog. I sell it for six figures. Now my Luddite buddy goes and starts another just like it. The guy who just bought my blog wasted six figures.

    Who in NA has six figures to blow for nothing in exchange?

    No one!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:54 AM, November 17, 2006  

  • We both said six figures, but we never identified the currency.

    It can now be revealed that I shelled out a little over 100,000 Vietnamese Dong for the Volunteer Hoosier blog, or the price of a burrito and a side guacamole at La Rosita's, and Randy said they were quite filling.

    The key element, unreported at the time, was a flan to be named later, but now that I'm dieting, I can't use it. Drats.

    Of course, Randy's bought lunch for me before, too, but we didn't include a blog transaction in the Meal Deal.

    BTW, I have a low mileage blog to swap. Anyone have a 1973 Reggie Jackson card?

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 8:52 AM, November 17, 2006  

  • 9:58,
    Yes, I was around then. While I am certainly not privy to Roger's finances, I am pretty sure he did not(and does not)have a spare "6 figures" laying around to buy a blog site or anything else for that matter. There obviously was a little "leg pulling" going on. Your leg appears to have been stretched pretty good.

    I never completely understood the "merger" either and, for some strange reason, they never consulted me. Maybe it was none of my business.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 9:00 AM, November 17, 2006  

  • Damn. Nobody told me he got a side of quac. I may have to renegotiate at the first of the year.

    Any chance a pint of jamaica would score me the remaining shares? I've got some yard signs I'll throw in.

    By Blogger Jeff Gillenwater, at 9:19 AM, November 17, 2006  

  • Bluegill,
    Wasn't a new car enough of a payback?

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 9:48 AM, November 17, 2006  

  • You think you have problems -- I'm still waiting for the new brewery the mayor promised.

    BTW, make those 20-barrel fermenters, please. I anticipate a strong future market for Progressive Pints.

    At this stage, I'd settle for steak and eggs.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 11:05 AM, November 17, 2006  

  • I can't answer that, Iam. My VH1 contract has a non-disclosure clause.

    By Blogger Jeff Gillenwater, at 11:50 AM, November 17, 2006  

  • Hey Randy talked about six figures and no one else. Is he a liar? It can be read on his blog (archived). I believe some people would do anything to shut the citizens of New Albany up, but then I do not know everything only a few things. Personally, I do not believe the explanation, but that is just me! How old are you until the bullying ceases? Don't you think it is time? I hate bullies, don't you?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:36 PM, November 17, 2006  

  • We heard stories about the Council meeting last night. Some good. Some bad. When we learn more, we'll let you know.

    We do know they are hiring about 10 more fire and police officers using a different strategy in pay not in concert with current union agreements. We are thankful they added the second ambulance back.

    Even though we know (seeing we brought it to the sewer board's attention LAST YEAR) the $540,000.00 in EDIT needs to be paid back immediately, because of the Engineer's needs (not ours').

    If they feel they need an overseer of EMC, whom I am paying probably close to $2 million to run our plant and do our maintenance; I feel they need to get rid of the "overseer" and the Council will free the monies. Hadn't thought of it like that before, but it does make sense. What doesn't make sense is why they hired the "overseer" in the first place. At least that "contract" is good for only 30 days, at which time the sewer board will take a re-look at same.

    Sorry that John Rosenbarger and Scott Woods maintain there is nothing ANYONE at City Hall can do about the house on Market, next to St. Elizabeths.

    EastEnder will be back soon, I'm sure of it (for those of you who truly care).

    Take care New Albany.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:38 PM, November 17, 2006  

  • We all hate bullies, which is why I denounce Dan Coffey at every opportunity.

    At the same time, you simply gotta be able to take a joke every now and then, and this whole six figures issue is precisely that.

    A joke. Like CM Price's council tenure.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 7:01 PM, November 17, 2006  

  • Enough said.... you win. Who is Dan Coffey?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:07 PM, November 17, 2006  

  • You're allowed your opinion, but our family sure does like Councilman Price. Have you ever even tried working with him on an issue? His tenure is lookin' fine to us! Any others, though? We'd probably be in agreement on, ya gotta think, at least one?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:34 AM, November 18, 2006  

  • I don't believe Dan Coffey is any bigger or as big a bully than many in New Albany. It is not that he is a bully, he is insecure and wants attention, any kind of attention and even BAD attention is better than no attention. He is likened to the child throwing temper tantrum which are always done to get their own way or to, you guessed it, to get attention, and let me tell you, IT WORKS! He has gotten more air time than most council people get. After what New Albany has endured over the last four years, it will be fun to watch who New Albany choses for their new council people. I hope the cumulative I.Q. is more than 70! It takes smarts and problem solving skills to run and make decisions for a town (YOUR town, MY town).

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:43 PM, November 18, 2006  

  • You need to realize something. Some of these people certainly did not get their seats because of IQ. Some serious history of whom is behind whom is needed.

    Who bought one of their suits for the first Council meeting and brought them? The answer to that speaks volumes.

    Most of the real players are behind the scenes. Some are transparent in their desire to serve us, the public. Some will go to extraordinary lengths to perform this service.

    Some just laugh and call you names behind your back because they know some of you haven't figured out "their" game plan yet.

    Just watch your back; and really take notice of who waits and opens their packets the night of Council, rather than 3 days before when they got them. Very telling.

    A lot of zigzagging goes on locally with certain Council members; and most don't seem to feel they need any past information to base their decisions, nor history.

    Sort of like the way we have ignored our lessons from Vietnam...except some choose to remain ignorant. And, where I'm from, ignorance is no excuse.

    Ya really probably haven't seen anything yet -- but there is no humanly possible way to even get taxpayers the knowledge they need.

    Only one thing can help us now -- we'll just have to wait and see if it happens. Yes, this may be cryptic...but you are talking about some of these people don't even have two nickles to rub together... Hmmmm.... They got there by hook, crook and favors for past work rendered for other politicos.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:10 AM, November 19, 2006  

  • Thanks for the input and information. Life is very complicated to be sure. I think should I ever be privy to all or any information of "behind the scenes" I may never recover. It makes me sick to see how the average citizen has been fleeced in New Albany for many years, and the services they receives do not match the cost or the price that is being paid by them. Even citizens who have lived in New Albany for many years, know something is amiss. However, that is New Albany and it is NOT going to change. However, there those elected officials one has to just say, "WHY?" or even better "HOW?" Again, thanks for the info.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:13 AM, November 19, 2006  

  • To Diggin, what makes you think the officials care what happens on Market Street -- this is not their neighborhood. Most of them live far away from the downtown area. The problems that are very real to people who live down town are very remote to those who live in say Georgetown, out Charlestown Road, or even out Slate run or Green Valley. This is a downtown problem and show me someone with clout who cares what happen in town? There are others who dealt with the same problem with the same solution. Surely there is a solution for this problem before it takes over completely. Also, there are a lot of disesases that are carried by mice, rats and birds. You think the Health Department does not know that? If they do not, they need to know. Good luck with your problem

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:26 AM, November 19, 2006  

  • No, but they were addressed by Mark Seabrook who is Council At Large and is located downtown and he couldn't get anything done, even with the Health Department.

    Mr. Price lives in this area and tried, but there is something just not right about this situtation. As far as we can see, the Health Department is simply PART of the problem. They're the ones not living downtown.

    Good try at that deflection, though.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:42 PM, November 19, 2006  

  • If the Health Department is not there to take care of a rat infestation, what is their role in the community? I would think that would be one of their main roles. If they do not assist with such a situation, why have a Health Department. It might be interesting to contact other small towns to see they are able to get assistance from the Health Department for a problem such as this. It may be confined to Floyd County only. Just a thought.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:54 AM, November 20, 2006  

  • That call sure is right on the money. The Health Department plays a lot bigger role behind the scenes; who's who; how they got there; how long they've been there; and what the hey are they doing to protect citizens' health, safety and welfare?

    You are onto something here...a little bit more investigation and you may be alarmed at all the other stories and fiascos they've been involved in.

    This is not the first instance of them refusing to do their job. Good job on calling it though.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:34 AM, November 20, 2006  

  • the last post about the health department sounds like sour grapes from either a former employee or a former program manager, now that doesnt take a PhD, does it professor?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:11 PM, November 24, 2006  

  • It is remarks like the latter that allow elected official, et al, to sit back and not respond to citizen's concerns. Why does there have to be trash talk? Either people are disgruntled, crazy, uneducated or just plain wrong any time they bring a real problem to light and ask for help from the people who are in a position to help.

    The above comment is just hateful.

    I personally think the Health Department is there is assist citizens in Floyd County and not always do a dance around it, i.e., give them rat poison. Everyone knows that is no solution at all, you can buy rat poison at any hardware store or a number of other businesses.

    When they clean up New Albany, their rat situation will also disappear --- rats love where it is filty, hence ordinances regarding cleanliness, not necessarily for appearance, but for health reason.

    An addition comment, this is also why you should carry a plastic bag to clean up after your animals. Many diseases are carried through feces. Why can't people understand this simple concept? In most places you would live, this is elementary.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:51 AM, November 25, 2006  

  • Let us see...Garner's Mother is on the Board of Directors of the hospital; Darrell Mills (our new Sheriff either still is or was); Kaye Geary (our Controller) is; and you want to talk how one is not connected to the other? How long have these people been in control of the Health Department? We aren't saying they're all bad...just the one's responsible.

    My, my, what a nerve was hit with that comment. Unfortunately, they're right. They may have lumped everyone in one big group and shouldn't have, but other than that, they are right on target.

    Hatefulness? Disgruntled employees? Ex-Program Manager? PhD?

    Okay.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:33 PM, November 25, 2006  

  • Well I guess I learned something today. I did not know that the mayor, controller, sheriff and citizens sitting on the board of directors had anything to do with the Health Department. I thought that was a state agency. Are you saying these people control the Health Department? You seem to be rather wise regarding this subject -- so how are the people at the Health Department there? I know they are not elected, are they appointed? Are they simply hired. I thought the big shot at the Health Department was Dan ? Elnor. Can you Help?

    Perhap you are correct! If there is no one to enforce ordinances, no one to stop the drug trafficking, and there is no one monitoring the Health Department it probably is all connected. Again, a big part of the problem there are too many elected officials who do not live in New Albany or perhaps not even Floyd County. Why should they care?

    Thanks for the information. A fan of SOLNA -- come back EE.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:50 AM, November 26, 2006  

  • What a relief.

    I though I'd missed the Black Friday, pre-Christmas, anonymous conspiracy theory sale.

    Hmm, wonder if anyone from the Health Department supported Scribner Place ...

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 4:43 PM, November 26, 2006  

  • We didn't say the Mayor served on the Health Department Board. We said the Health Department Board is appointed by the Floyd County Hospital Board.

    On that board sits Garner's mother, Kaye Geary (our Comptroller), our new Sheriff Darrell Mills did (not sure if he's still there or not).

    The top (which is whom we are talking about) are appointees and tied to the same good ole' boy crowd. Check with other people in the City and County and they'll tell you of problems that have existed.

    No, the Health Department is a COUNTY Health Department...thus is why the STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT rules are saying Floyd County Health Department does have the rights to do what they need to do about the house on Market with the rats.

    Thanks for letting us clear the air.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:06 AM, November 29, 2006  

  • could it be the problem at the health department is lack of funds and staff and real estate developers who run rough shod over anything or anyone who gets in their way?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:32 AM, November 29, 2006  

  • Here's an idea: Spell Kay Garry's name correctly. You have a computer, right? You can do a simple search and learn spelling ... right?

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 12:03 PM, November 29, 2006  

  • Give them a break New Albanian. They are still learning the difference between "your" and "you're."

    Grammar first, then spelling proper nouns.

    Baby steps.

    By Blogger Neal Page, at 11:15 AM, November 30, 2006  

  • Of course, Neal, it's done on purpose, and no more than to be expected from the terminally anonymous.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 11:19 AM, November 30, 2006  

  • We can start here again!!

    We'll not be silenced!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:03 PM, January 15, 2007  

  • I would not be too sure of that, if I were you. You assume a lot, that is for sure. This is not your blog. Your playground, well we don't know where it is, but not here.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:16 PM, January 15, 2007  

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