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Thursday, September 21, 2006

When It Rains It Pours....

We hope everyone is safe...and dry in spite of the torrential rains we have experienced these last 2 days, and we are hopeful that those who have suffered property damage will soon have their losses recovered.
We are also hopeful that stormwater drainage problems around the city, revealed again by this event, will be dealt with appropriately and quickly. After all, the city is already collecting quite a bit of money to do just that. With the recently imposed "Stormwater" fees, in addition to "drainage" fees we were already paying, and the always increasing "sewer" rates, there should be no excuses (other than "bad management") for continuing inadequate or poor drainage.
Of course, we also contend that after approximately $80 million has been poured into our sewage system, and a 90% increase in rates over the past 6 years, there should be no room for excuses when it comes to overflows and bypasses with as little as 2" of rain, yet both are still occurring. However, it does appear that the "excuses" are wearing a bit thin when it comes to the officials at the EPA since they are now requiring photographic proof of the problems being reported as the causes of such failures.
Apparently the EPA's dissatisfaction with New Albany's progress is high enough that the portion of sewer credits slated for release at the beginning of September were ultimately denied. That's right folks. The highly touted "plan" for earning the release of additional sewer credits has failed. Funny how this piece of news seems to have slipped under the local radar and has gone largely unnoticed, or at least un-mentioned. It remains to be seen how they intend to address the issue of potential economic development for the Downtown district without sewer credits. We are even more interested to hear how they plan to issue enough credits to support the Scribner Place project. Unless they've been holding credits in reserve, this new wrinkle could threaten the entire project.
Meanwhile, the City Council has given final approval to the next budget of $16.1 million which, interestingly, includes quite a few raises despite the many fiscal crisis' the city has faced recently. While we don't want to begrudge anyone a livable wage, a suggested 33% increase for one particular employee has been perceived as a bit excessive. We also find it rather obnoxious that some others are receiving a raise when they have done nothing with their work to warrant any such type of 'reward' (ie: a non-functional Building Commissioner). Then again, should we still be getting surprised by the audacity of this administration to put personal gain over the good of the community at large? The apparent answer is a resounding "NO". Indeed, we have almost come to expect it.
What else should we be expecting?
We would like to suggest that the least we should be expecting is some accountability from those who are supposed to be in charge (why do we pay T. Toran?), and perhaps a little honest effort expended towards reigning in some exorbitant costs, such as the outrageous cell phone costs incurred by the Parks Dept., which would go a long way towards regaining some of the public trust.
Apart from these two basic expectations from our City officials, we would like for you folks to tell us what you think.
Finally, we have just a couple of things we want to say regarding the new "arrangement" the city has made with the YMCA to finance the Scribner Place project. Namely, the decision to provide financing via the Redevelopment Commission. We would like to extend our sincere thanks to CM Steve Price for standing his ground on this one by casting a "NO" vote, as he was standing our ground as well.
THANKS STEVE!!! Your dedication to fiscal responsibility is appreciated and noted.
First, we find it extremely troubling that the city has embarked on a path that unites church and state rather than keeping with accepted practices of keeping the two very, very separate from one another. For those in our community who have alternate faith beliefs, this is nothing short of a slap in the face. Taxpayers should never be forced to contribute to a faith based organization, and that's exactly what this financing deal amounts to.
Secondly, the cost of this Scribner Place project places our city well beyond our constitutional debt limits, yet they have managed to take away any possibility of a remonstrance by the taxpayers who object to this force fed "investment" into the Downtown area.
The only thing that abates our frustration is the realization that these decisions have almost certainly sealed the fate of James Garner as a one-termer. He has displayed, over and over again, a blatant disregard for propriety and a complete lack of concern for the lower economic class of voters. 'Nuff said.



    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:14 PM, September 24, 2006  

  • You notice the newspaper never mentioned anything about over flows and etc? Thanks to Councilman Bill & Anna Schmidt for helping several of the families who were flooded out. Not only in there area but other areas as well.
    God Bless this Councilman and his wife.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:52 PM, September 24, 2006  

  • When did Indiana law allow a husband and wife to serve as Councilman??? Councilman Bill & Anna Schmidt???!!!???

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:59 AM, September 25, 2006  

  • Come on anon 9:59 you know they meant Councilman Schmidt and his wife Anna, it's only grammar.

    The point is, these two wonderful people helped others as they always do.

    What were YOU doing to help your neighors 9:59?

    By Anonymous Shirley, at 10:15 AM, September 25, 2006  

  • To 4:52:

    You notice the newspaper ran a big picture and front-page stories about the flooding? Moron.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:59 PM, September 25, 2006  

  • I guess it's Garner's fault that it rained so much, right?
    It must be Garner's fault that they closed I-64 in Louisville too, right?
    If only Garner knew how much power he has. The things he could do.
    You bunch of friggin' crybabies.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:29 PM, September 25, 2006  

  • I found it very disturbing that people seem to take this article so lightly.

    Of course no one is blaming Garner for the rain. If he can make it rain we need to send him to the Sudan.

    What bothers me is the fees we are paying for the sewers, stormwater, etc. without the level of service these increases merit. As Laura said, we have been hit with a huge increase in our water/sewer bill but nothing seems to be done. And now our sewer credits are in danger of being withheld. I cannot understand why so few seem to care.

    By Anonymous shirley, at 4:13 PM, September 25, 2006  

  • I heard several homes flooded in Coffey's area. And I heard he done nothing? Please no own blame the down pours with an act of God! Maybe if we hadn't of spent over $80 million everything should have been working correctly.

    Maybe god is telling New Albany we need to fix our sewers?

    Since so many progressives along with James says were well on our way of completion?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:49 PM, September 25, 2006  

  • Shirley, I must say I agree wholeheartedly with your statement. One has to wonder how bad things would have to get before folks are finally ready to step up and take action.
    Our collective pockets are being picked by an administration that seizes every opportunity to create more fees. Yet, we are seeing so little in the way of returns on those dollars.
    What's worse is that there are millions of dollars being kept out of the general fund due to the creation of too many TIF districts and granting too many tax abatements.
    Both of these "tools" have been horribly over used and poorly managed. The result is staggering losses of revenue and thus, the need to increase fees and rates.
    We have every right to expect good management of these economic development "tools", and that means good decision making.
    Unfortunately, that's not what we've been getting.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 3:07 AM, September 26, 2006  

  • Anyone know what Vickie's talking about at FOS when she refers to a "perf?"

    Maybe Anna garbled the transmission.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 8:49 AM, September 26, 2006  

  • I don't read the impostor blog site(FOS)on a regular basis but did find the posting on Linden Meadows interesting.

    Iamhoosier would like to ask Erik why just the names of Mr. Baylor, Mr. Wimp, and Mr. Fullmore were mentioned. I believe at least one more important name was left out--Ms. Oates. Did Erik forget that East Ender also supports this project?

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 9:16 AM, September 26, 2006  

  • PERF = something something Retirement Fund.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:36 PM, September 26, 2006  

  • Read the front page of the CJ today (down on the right hand side of the paper) about what else is starting all municipalities (Federal, State, County, and City) and how they mention bankruptcy and how they mention credit ratings. Extremely interesting article.

    We heard Linden Meadows took a big hit. We heard about Players Place. We heard Reno & Silver even had a house's foundation knocked out from under it. We are still not sure this beats the 1997 rains. It was definitely a "10 year rain" and certain politicos say there were plenty of sewage overflows; but the plant didn't bypass. Hmmmmmm. Well, if the sewage flowed out of all of the manholes and into Joe Kraft Park and Elmwood St was forced out and Cherry Valley was under -- hmmmmmm.

    Later, New Albany. Welcome back, EE.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:57 PM, September 26, 2006  

  • Seeing FOS is an ex-county employee and had the "PERF"; maybe she didn't get her info from anyone but herself. Nuf said.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:32 AM, September 27, 2006  

  • After reading and hearing about Louisville's MSD stepping up and offering $500 to those who have suffered damage due to the flood waters, it was disheartening to read Garner's words of retreat.
    "There can't be a claim against the city for an act of God."
    What a callous and cold hearted thing to say. A cop-out.
    He couldn't even muster up one word of sympathy or caring for the victims of the storm?! Only what folks can't expect.
    Thanks to Garner there's no money left in the "Rainy Day Fund". Wouldn't that have come in real handy?
    Alas, he raided it a long time ago to shore up the General Fund (re:TIF's and tax abatements).
    If the paper was accurate, there were only about 100 households flooded, and they could have been helped with something without breaking the bank.
    We're real curious to find out if they plan to replenish that Rainy Day Fund in the new budget.
    Or, will the raises be taking precedent over any funds that might help in situations such as this?

    By Blogger East Ender, at 4:26 AM, September 27, 2006  

  • P.S. Thanks for the "Welcome back(s)".

    By Blogger East Ender, at 4:56 AM, September 27, 2006  

  • If anyone knows anything about city or county employees they know that these people receive comp time, personal days, sick days, holidays, and longevity pay.

    For your information Anon. 2:32 longevity is a perk. Why don't you ask your buddies Mayor James Garner or former Mayor Doug England?

    The people in the city of New Albany are more concerned about getting the truth and the facts. Freedom of Speech does a good job of reporting the truth and backing it up with the facts.

    Sounds to me like you have a vendetta and a personal agenda. Get over yourself and start worrying about your own business instead of sticking your nose into other peoples' business.

    By Anonymous fed up with all of the bs, at 10:29 AM, September 27, 2006  

  • Our family is adopting a new attitude, we do believe. No more D's for Democrat, no more R's for Republicans, no more L's for Liberterians, no more I's for Independents - simply an A - A for ACCOUNTABILITY, no matter what party they stand for.

    This writing was published in "The Nation, October 9, 2006" edition.

    To us, it aptly describes what is not going on downtown and this would be the line below about "the three kinds of people".


    Our cat, who's over nineteen, likes to sleep on the massed softness of a pile of shirts, two, three, four, flung on the floor but soon to be gathered up and taken to the laundry, where the proprietess gives out brief but mordant bulletins about her teenage girls.

    "Boys easier. You're lucky. My daughter very bad", she barks one day. The next week things are worse. "Too much trouble with my younger daughter. She tell me we are not in China now, she can do what she want. I'm very tired." Next week: "We have a saying: there are three kinds of people. First kind know right thing to do and do it without being told. Second kind not know but will do if someone tell them. Third kind: even if you tell them, nothing!"

    She takes the wad of fading rainbow shirts I push across the counter toward here, shoots back this week's clean ones, wrapped in crisp brown paper, soon to go soft and pungent in their turn.

    By: Rachel Hadas

    Isn't it the truth? All three of those kinds of people are wrapped up in the leadership of this City. These are simply our opinions.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:28 PM, September 27, 2006  

  • "start worrying about your own business and stop sticking your nose in other peoples' businesses"?

    dish it out but can't take it? ALL YOU PEOPLE DO is stick your noses in other peoples' businesses.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:34 PM, September 27, 2006  

  • I truly think some of you folks need to get a job! If you loved New Albany like alot of us do, then maybe we could get alot done.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:37 PM, September 27, 2006  

  • Oh, giving flood victims taxpayer dollars is a wonderful idea. Talk a about a breach of fiduciary duty!!!

    First, you complain about taxes and fees increases, then out of the other side of your mouth you want to give money away.

    While were at it, why don’t we set up a fund for tornado victims. Ooops, don’t forget about earthquake victims (if you didn’t know it, the New Madrid fault is just raring to go). Wait a minute, what about hail storm victims, let’s not forget them. Better get landslide victim money set aside, just in case the Knobs slide down onto the city.

    What about all the people who have suffered because of high gasoline prices? Shouldn’t they be helped too?

    If the Mayor had dipped into city coffers, you, Erik, the Gang of Four, and every other “anti-everything” person would have made a beeline to the city-county building and staged a protest and probably demanded that the Mayor be impeached.

    Talk to people you know who were affected by hurricanes Andrew, Katrina, Wilma, Rita, Camille, Hugo, etc., and ask them how much money they received from their municipal government. Everyone I know received the same amount - ZERO!

    First you want subsidized sewer service and now free money to victims of a natural disaster. Sounds to me like you are trying to set up a welfare state.

    By Anonymous irs agent, at 11:52 PM, September 27, 2006  

  • IRS, you're giving 'em way too much credit. There's no plan, just anger -- coming from a bunch of middle class white homeowners who feel like they're not getting what they're entitled to..

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:06 AM, September 28, 2006  

  • Ya got to love it. The very people who will not allow anonymous postings are their blogs love to come over here and post anonymously.

    By Anonymous guess who, at 10:02 AM, September 28, 2006  

  • I am not Roger or anyone associated with his blog.

    But, "I am Spartacus!"

    By Anonymous irs agent, at 1:13 PM, September 28, 2006  

  • east ender,

    Good to have you back. I trust you were not under the weather (again.)

    You hit it spot on in the last paragraph of your posting when you stated, “He has displayed, over and over again, a blatant disregard for propriety and a complete lack of concern for the lower economic class of voters.” Our family, from time to time, has the privilege of working in the St. Mary’s soup kitchen. I have noticed that even at the beginning of the month (after governmental aid checks have been issued,) the kitchen is now serving a higher number of folks than previously. Some with whom I have spoken are indeed homeowners in NA, and are having a harder time making ends meet with rising costs. What perhaps is not a big deal to you and I (another $20 a month in increased fees, etc) may represent a few meals to these folks. Since this lower socioeconomic class comprises a larger portion of the city’s population, your comment is well placed.

    to some others,

    On another topic, what’s the problem with the Freedom of Speech blog? Most of what I can see is the posting of public documents and/or publicly available information, with a few questions thrown in afterward? Is it that some do not like public documents or information being made ‘truly public,’ to a broader range of people? Do these documents raise questions, doubts or cast your chosen few in a negative light? Does the information not support advancing your chosen agendas? Do the questions posed by the FOS blogmaster strike too close to the bone? Could it be that the truth hurts?


    By Blogger blogtastic, at 1:22 PM, September 28, 2006  

  • Very well said Blogtastic on both points.

    It is hard for a person who has never had to live paycheck to paycheck to understand how it is.

    Glad that you and your family volunteer at St. Mary's.

    As far as FOS I could not agree more. The information is all public knowlege but who has the time to do the research? I am glad that these good people keep us informed.

    By Anonymous shirley, at 2:47 PM, September 28, 2006  

  • Speaking for myself, the posting of documents and ordinances is a good service that Erik provides. I have posted positively about this previously.

    It is the analysis and the commentary that is so poor and, at times, so wrong. Also, Erik likes to make commentary by asking a question and then allows no way to answer.

    Did I mention the lie about being a college professor of Political Science?

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 6:35 PM, September 28, 2006  

  • Iamhoosier can you prove that?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:09 PM, September 28, 2006  

  • FOS is Vickie Denhart.

    She is neither Erik, nor a professor.

    See -- I proved it.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 8:50 PM, September 28, 2006  

  • The first amendment of the constitution guarantees all citizens the Freedom to speak, whether to criticize our local government or whatever the individual feels he or she needs to express.

    Unfortunately, it is a right too few blogs take advantage of and/or are too fearful or lazy to speak our minds.

    Unlike the group of citizens at Freedom of Speech.

    Yet when the City without any permission from you, assesses you hundreds, if not thousands in extra assessments, taxes or additional fees, there is little said in opposition, except for those few real concerned people in NA who is going up against local govt.

    Freedom of Speech blog is not afraid to tell our mayor what to do with their money.

    We need to wonder who will follow along with every hair-brained plan the city comes up with to stay afloat?

    Perhaps it is some of these reasons for Freedom of Speech blog?

    So wake up! It is all about your/our money.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:53 PM, September 28, 2006  

  • so funny

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:13 PM, September 28, 2006  

  • 8:50pm

    See--I proved it.
    You proved what? Nothing but scuttlebutt gossip hearsay.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:31 AM, September 29, 2006  

  • know-it-all; (roger)
    One who knows everything; hence, a person who makes pretension to great knowledge, especially one whose didactic conversational habit conspicuously reveals his belief that he has superior knowledge on many subjects.

    Where's waldo?

    By Anonymous JANICE, at 6:19 AM, September 29, 2006  

  • Waldo's staying at the Admiral Bicknell Inn as a guest of she who supports Vickie's slander blog.

    Yep, proved it again.

    Ms. Baird, are you still a part of the mock professorial endeavor?

    People here say the truth's important, and if this is true, then let's have the truth about FOS.

    Otherwise, the diagnosis is hypocrisy.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 8:32 AM, September 29, 2006  

  • new albanian,

    You need to check your sources ie. your friend Ann Streckfus and Yvonne Kersey before making statements that you cannot back up.

    You have proved nothing. Does the word "slander" mean anything to you?

    Have you read FOS this morning? You should, you might even learn something.

    By Anonymous a reader of FOS, at 9:23 AM, September 29, 2006  

  • Slander?

    Odd conclusion. I'm merely positing the patently obvious, with no need of "sources" to speculate.

    However, it is funny that an anonymous comment raises the possibility of slander on the part on someone with the basic decency to be who he is.

    Anonymous, me thinks you're a coward.

    Oops, that might be slander. I've always been prejudiced against the unknowns among us.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 9:33 AM, September 29, 2006  

  • a reader of fos:

    No one has slandered anyone on this blog. Learn the definition of slander before you start slinging the word around.

    By Anonymous irs agent, at 9:36 AM, September 29, 2006  

  • Mr. Baylor,

    What hipocrisy! You are the one who used the word slander when referring to "Vickie's" blog whatever that means.

    Perhaps I should have referred to you as DOCTOR Baylor since you are now diagnosing words.

    By Anonymous a reader of fos, at 10:36 AM, September 29, 2006  

  • irs agent

    You should have directed that statement to the new albanian. See my comment above.

    By Anonymous a reader of fos, at 10:38 AM, September 29, 2006  

  • I'm merely asking who is involved in the production of FOS, as it is my feeling that the answer to the question would be instructive for many in the community.

    I'll soon be asking this question in another public forum, and I would expect that certain people would provide simple yes or no answers.

    That's all. Hardly a conspiracy, just a vote in favor of truth and transparency, which many readers here consistently support.

    I hope that's not viewed as some sort of threat. Why would it?

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 10:47 AM, September 29, 2006  

  • iamhoosier,

    You stated, Did I mention the lie about being a college professor of Political Science?

    I don't know if this is true or not, because I do not know who the FOS author may be. But if true, and I'll take your word for it for the purpose of this argument, does it really matter?

    Does it change the truth of what the FOS author presents?

    I feel somewhat confident that you would agree the truth can stand by itself (borrowing from Jefferson,) regardless of the source.

    Our current political and societal methodology is to attack the source of the information, rather than objectively evaluate the truth of the matter asserted. The same now comprises a large percentage of what now passes as ‘journalism.’ Hell, it’s on the radio this morning; both Al and Laura! Look only at the intervening comments between yours that I cited and this one, for a local example; merely attempts to out the author of FOS, I suppose in an attempt to therefore advance to step number two and denigrate the source, rather than objectively evaluate the truth of the matter asserted.

    Not to go theological, but we’re all imperfect, whether our identities be known or not. Does this not mean we cannot speak the truth?

    This takes me in a rather long-winded manner back to my prior comment and some of the questions (not necessarily directed to you.)

    Is it that some do not like public documents or information being made ‘truly public,’ to a broader range of people? Do these documents raise questions, doubts or cast your chosen few in a negative light? Does the information not support advancing your chosen agendas? Do the questions posed by the FOS blogmaster strike too close to the bone? Could it be that the truth hurts?

    My position, of course, would change if the information posted at FOS were somehow proven to be false or materially altered from the true source (public) documents; but I have not seen that alleged.

    Thanks for the rationale discourse. It is enjoyable.


    By Blogger blogtastic, at 10:56 AM, September 29, 2006  

  • Blogtastic,
    Thanks for the response.

    Please remember that I did have a positive comment about Erik. If Erik reprints something accurately and completely, of course it is the truth. I have never said otherwise.

    Would you not have a problem completely trusting someone who lies daily? All Erik has to do to shut me up about the lying is remove IT. We, Erik and I, would probably still disagree politically. Disagreeing is one thing, lying is another.

    Can I prove it? No. I can cite several pieces of circumstantial evidence though.

    1. There are people on this blog who know Erik and they have never stepped up to defend Erik's "occupation". They may defend the blog but not the Poli Sci. I commend those people for their honesty.

    2. The biggest reason is to go back over the last several months and read Erik's commentary, not reprints of documents. A college professor lives by the saying "publish or perish". Erik's writing is not the writing of any kind of college professor. My writing stinks too, but then I am not claiming to be a college professor.

    3. Gets obvious political facts wrong or backwards.


    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 1:35 PM, September 29, 2006  

  • Baylor,

    I can overlook your solipsistic nature, but I am unable to understand why the sudden curiosity surrounding the author of FOS. I concur with Blogtastic. Perhaps the truth is something you are not ready to face. What enlightenment shall you receive if your quest is fruitful? Will it change the truth that you are struggling to accept? CM Price made an excellent point in his letter to the editor; your perception of the situation will determine the reality you chose to acblishPost=Publier le messagethought; in fact, he is powerless.
    In "Kamabara," a lazy

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:00 PM, September 29, 2006  

  • Baylor,

    I can overlook your solipsistic nature, but I am unable to understand why the sudden curiosity surrounding the author of FOS. I concur with Blogtastic. Perhaps the truth is something you are not ready to face. What enlightenment shall you receive if your quest is fruitful? Will it change the truth that you are struggling to accept? CM Price made an excellent point in his letter to the editor; your perception of the situation will determine the reality you chose to accept.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:01 PM, September 29, 2006  

  • I support Erik and Freedom of Speech.

    Go brew some beer.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:18 PM, September 29, 2006  

  • Iamhoosier,

    Your whole problem is Anonymous? How many free beers did roger offer you to write those comments.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:32 PM, September 29, 2006  

  • You obviously don't know Roger very well. Free beer!?!? He's a pretty good guy, but free beer? He's trustworthy, but free beer? Writes a good a line(or novel), but free beer?

    That bud lite is frying your brain cells.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 6:18 PM, September 29, 2006  

  • I bought Bluegill a beer for running the blog in my absence, but he deserved it.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 6:42 PM, September 29, 2006  

  • This is not just about Freedom of Speech Blog.Your real problem with FOS is this fight that is directed against what is known as "the public's right to know" in our essential oversight responsibility over our local government as citizens.

    As Harry Truman stated: "When even one American - who has done nothing wrong stands up for truth - is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril."

    Erik at Freedom of Speech Blog is fighting for democracy and accountability. And standing up to despotism by those in power, and dangerous to those who would expose them.

    But this shouldn't be the case here, not in the City of New Albany.

    We need the kind of local government Erik proudly defines as, and believes to be, a local government of the people, by the people, for the people.

    Our Mayor James Garner is fully aware that making this information public will bring about the many questions of accountability.

    And Mr. Baylor he does not want to be held accountable.

    And you are against embarrassing revelations and full accountability.

    Mayor Garner has committed severe negligence, and continues to shield himself from accountability while gambling with the best interest of each and every taxpayer of New Albany.

    Freedom of Speech have the right to demand that our mayor fulfills his elected obligations.

    Freedom of Speech is here to ring the wake-up bell and ask us all not to look the other way.

    Regardless of what you try to say "freedom of speech blog" will not go away.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:14 PM, September 29, 2006  

  • And Mr. Baylor he does not want to be held accountable.

    And you are against embarrassing revelations and full accountability.

    And anyone who uses "and" this many times to begin a sentence probably is FOS.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 10:27 PM, September 29, 2006  

  • Is it probably or assume.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:00 PM, September 29, 2006  

  • Nah, I agree with the New Albanian -- right on all counts.

    FOS is Vicki Denhart; aligned with the other famous wanna be "V".

    Eric/Erica and the political science professor is all **.

    No, FOS, you have no credibility because you print whatever you "feel" like, depending upon who you are mad at that particular point in time, and there is no discourse with you, unless you bring it to this blog.

    If you wish to ignore what EE's wishes are and what her subject matter is, and you keep insisting your blog be brought on here to "titillate" about; it's just not going to happen anymore.

    We can choose to expose you "even more"; because of the cause of "dignity", we choose not to.

    To have the truth and facts, as you so aptly mentioned, there really has to be a two-sided prong concerning that issue -- not just yours.

    Open your blog up -- be the moderator; hey, print what you want. EE doesn't really care at this point in time. We have very important Federal, State and County elections. Please, take it back to yours; become a moderator and print only those people who agree with you and get it off here.

    We are ready to expose even more, New Albanian. We, too, are tired and sick of the **.

    Thank you for putting the name to the face, and let me tell you; she knows no gracious words -- only retalation and not so truthful info. But, seeing she lives in a glass house, my suggestion and yours should be "if you live in a glass house, you really shouldn't throw rocks."

    Take care FOS. No rules to be followed by you; all bets are off with us. Take care now, you hear?

    Now, maybe we can get to the current elections and not "her" agenda for who "she" thinks is going to be the save all for New Albany.


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:09 AM, September 30, 2006  

  • 4:09am

    Since you think Freedom of Speech has an agenda. Maybe Yvonne you can explain to us what your agenda is?

    You do know what assume means don't you?

    Or do we still call it ground clutter?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:38 AM, September 30, 2006  

  • Anon 6:38 I must agree with you. Why are these people so intent on discovering the identity of the FOS blogmaster?

    Anon 4:09 Are you threatening Ms.Denhart? You should be more aware of the issues at hand than worrying about who is FOS. For instance what do you think about Tim Deatrick's appointment as Chairman of the Storm Water Committee?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:06 AM, September 30, 2006  

  • Wait ... someone here agrees with me?

    I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry, but thanks.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 10:53 AM, September 30, 2006  

  • Re: Tim Deatrick, that's the only smart move the mayor's made while in office. Tim is knowledgeable, knows his stuff, and will do a great job.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:56 AM, September 30, 2006  

  • I would like to thank myself for that last comment. Someone again will soon be posting my resume' anonymously.

    By Anonymous tim deatrick, at 1:21 PM, September 30, 2006  

  • Your joking right. Tim the ***kissing perv. I can't wait until 07 when Garner and all his lunatics are out of here. Maybe then we will elect someone who has a lot less greed and a lot more heart, someone who actually gives a damn about the people on NA.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:41 PM, September 30, 2006  

  • Okay. I would definitely not like to thank myself for that last comment.

    By Anonymous tim deatrick, at 2:13 PM, September 30, 2006  

  • anonymous -

    How dare you attack my son! He is a good little boy.

    By Anonymous moms deatrick, at 3:11 PM, September 30, 2006  

  • I would like to thak my mom for that last commment.

    Mom, I will be home soon with the milk and bread if I can find out who swiped my bike!

    By Anonymous tim deatrick, at 3:13 PM, September 30, 2006  

  • Blogtastic has an article on Tim's new job at his blog N.A. Unrestricted.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:25 PM, September 30, 2006  

  • Okay. I would also not like to thank blogtastic for his comments.

    Anybody seen my orange crate? It has big orange tassels on the handlebars and some streamers and cards in the spokes.

    By Anonymous tim deatrick, at 3:39 PM, September 30, 2006  

  • ha ha ha ha ha toooo funny!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:40 PM, September 30, 2006  

  • To the fake Tim Deatrick: I would avoid impersonating Tim Deatrick if I were you. Your location can be traced, and you will be charged.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:12 AM, October 01, 2006  

  • Tim Deatrick was a friend of mine. Sir, you are no Tim Deatrick.

    By Anonymous Lloyd Bentsen, at 12:04 PM, October 01, 2006  

  • So skeeter man got a board job? Kissin ass sure paid off for you Mr. Skeeter man.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:37 PM, October 01, 2006  

  • Once again, the anonymous character assassination blog dips to its full lack of potential.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 6:00 PM, October 01, 2006  

  • Is anyone out there interested in discussing the ISSUES????
    This bantering back and forth about who is who and who did what is just too juvenile to address.
    This blog is here to discuss the issues that are facing our city and the capabilities (or lack thereof) of those who are in charge.
    Anything else is just pure ground clutter.
    So please, either keep it on topic or keep it off this blog.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 7:17 PM, October 01, 2006  

  • Oh where, Oh where, did everybody go, Oh where, Oh where can they be?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:54 PM, October 02, 2006  

  • QUESTION---- What is being done to help the people who lost so much during the recent flooding ?



    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:08 PM, October 02, 2006  

  • Mayor said he wasn't going to ask a "Republican Governor" and it was an "act of God", and any other excuse they still haven't come up with yet....

    What else?

    The new appointment to the Stormwater Board is going to be another "big black eye" for ya Mayor. We are simply glad he is now "your" nightmare and not "ours". Yeeeeaaaaa.

    No credibility left to really discuss, EE. James has shown how much "quality" leadership skills he possesses simply by the people he surrounded himself to do the work. We call that a one-termer in New Albany.

    By Anonymous and don't forget that investigation, at 10:04 PM, October 02, 2006  

  • Move over James, got a new kid on the block waiting to re-decorate your office!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What will T.T. do?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:24 AM, October 04, 2006  

  • I guess T T will go back to bagging groceries at Kroger

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:19 AM, October 04, 2006  

  • I guess all of you won the President's Call to Service Gold Award this year like Tim Deatrick did. You are a pathetic bunch of complainers. I cannot believe that I live in the same town as you losers. When you actually do something other than complain, I'll check back in.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:11 AM, October 04, 2006  

  • thanks, mom!


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:19 PM, October 04, 2006  

  • Thanks for shutting down Diggin in the Dirt.

    Our future is bright, our endeavors will be accomplished.

    King of the Rats

    By Anonymous ben, at 2:33 PM, October 04, 2006  

  • When the rats get Broadband, it really is time to consider moving.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:06 PM, October 04, 2006  

  • Peter sheeter on a board? You've got to be kidding.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:11 PM, October 04, 2006  

  • Speaking of when it rain, it pours...we have some of the stats in from our September 22nd & September 23rd rainfall and how well our Sewers worked.

    The City reports 18 sewer system overflows (though the State reports 19), and maintain they did not bypass. The City is declaring this a 42 hour rain even with a total of 6.23".

    The City is also maintaining there were no SSO's on the 22nd; we would beg to disagree. The City maintains the overflows did not happen until 9:51 am on the 23rd.

    The City maintains Joe Kraft Park didn't have any SSO's. The Engineer questioned how that could be, seeing it was under water by 11:00 pm on the 22nd? "Well, we walked back in there and didn't see any residue." The Engineer was sure any such residue would have washed away.

    The other locations were 3 at the Robert E. Lee; 3 on Cherry Valley (underwater by 11:00 pm the 22nd); Linda Drive Area in mini-basin 18. Basin 16 was overwhelmed, which would be the Korb and Sanderson area. Basein 12, which we are assuming would be Cummins and the Lewis Street areas; the Meiers and the I-265 areas; and Arnie's (that's how they refer to the manhole out in the middle of the street). We could have sworn they said they fixed Arnie's, though.

    The Old Ford area, where again, not a lot of specifics, but mentioned how a 12 inch line ran into a 6 inch line which ran into a 8 inch line which ran into a 15 inch line which then runs into a 10 inch line. Whew, doggies. Sure hope we got all of that one right.

    Up in Silver Hills and the people down on Corydon Pike -- there was totally black sewage running down towards Corydon Pike from between 1705 and 1707 Woodland Rd up behind you. They are maintaining a line completely broke.

    Another issue we have with the "reporting" going on is the "guessestimation" there was only 32,520 GPD leaking out during this time frame. State records.

    Also, at E 6th and Elm, sewer board says it a storm drain -- is it?

    The Engineers weren't buying the Clark-Deitz's "engineering study" done so more houses could be built out the Green Valley/Daisy Lane area. Mr. Fifer (you could hardly hear him) actually admitted he might have a conflict of interest with this subject. Anyways, it was ordered sent to the EPA for their scrutiny. Thank you Mr. Solomon and Mr. Utz.

    The missing EDIT monies we were after last YEAR was brought to the floor by the Engineers, this time -- not us. The Mayor told them to go get it from the Council. The Sewer Board misspent the monies and now they want more? Help.

    You know there has to be a lot more, but we are tired so to all a goodnight. Thanks for the space, EastEnder.

    By Blogger New Albany Potty Police Member, at 12:37 AM, October 05, 2006  

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